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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP I’m a moderate democrat, actually like a few republicans like Hogan. When people have to wait 8-10 hours in line to vote its suppression. When someone has to choose between losing a days pay and coming up short for groceries or voting it’s suppression. When the 90 year grandmother gets told she’s no longer recorded to vote and to drive 10 miles away to a different location, even though she’s been going to that location for a decade and this is only happening in minority neighborhoods , it’s suppression. When a state official throws out all the votes from areas that vote against their party it’s suppression. Voting should be easy. Elected officials should be focusing on how to get more people to vote. If everyone votes, there would be less division and ironically more support for state functions over federal. Minimum wage is a good example. If everyone had equal, unfettered and easy access to vote and then did so there would be no need for a federal minimum wage. If everyone in Alabama and Mississippi voted then if they decided that 60% of the working population should make $6 rather than $15 then fine. [/quote] Op here - thanks for your answer. I agree no one should have to wait even an hour to vote. [b] Is that a pervasive problem or just in a few random places became or snafus?[/b] As to the other points, most everyone can request mail-in ballots, can’t they?[/quote] It's a pervasive problem in many jurisdictions. Are you really not familiar with this? It has been going on for decades. and has become more acute over the last 30 years. These are not "snafus" - it is by design to limit the number of polling places and then the number of voting booths within those precincts. And no, not everyone can just use mail-in voting. You can if you live in Utah, Washington, Oregon and now California and Washington DC. Places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina etc have HUGE restrictions.[/quote] You are peddling lies. If you think "restrictions" mean that a voter has to request one.... this is not a "restriction." I took the time to check 3 states you listed. All 3 have no excuse mail in voting. Georgia.....no reason needed to get a mail in ballot. All you need to do is request one. https://georgia.gov/vote-absentee-ballot Ohio.... again, no reason needed. Just request one. https://www.ohiosos.gov/elections/voters/absentee-voting/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=cNwr.t5Oe54k3yoJhaPV4vXmVL2JvaSk0RBKRldSNqU-1641987789-0-gaNycGzNB30 Pennsylvania......no reason needed. Just request one. https://www.vote.pa.gov/Voting-in-PA/Pages/Mail-and-Absentee-Ballot.aspx[/quote] NOT A LIE: “ Universal, no-excuse mail-in voting has survived a court challenge in Pennsylvania and will live on after an eventful first year on the books. But a look back to its creation through its critical role in the 2020 election offers a window into how policy and politics can shift on a dime. ‘Everybody thought this was a good idea — a [b]great idea, in fact — until Trump spoke out against it[/b],” said Joe Mistick, a law professor at Duquesne and local political commentator.‘“ https://www.publicsource.org/trump-politicized-mail-in-voting-in-2020-pa-republicans-supported-it-originally/ You are like an abusive spouse that gaslights their victim. Trump and Republicans TRIED THEIR HARDEST to restrict mail in voting! There is your proof right there in front of you. Just because they lost a lawsuit doesn’t mean that you can then say it is a “lie” that PA had voting restrictions on mail in ballots.[/quote]
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