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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I hate how every thread where someone asks for information to support a birth choice they’re making freely (not being coerced uninformed into) gets derailed by one extremely anti-vaginal birth poster. The OP is entitled to the information she asks for even if you think vaginal birth is the devil and we should all have mandatory c-sections.[/quote]

OP here, thank you. My choice as a woman is to have a vaginal birth. I’m asking specifically about hospitals rates. [/quote]

Just know that regardless of the hospital, your "choice as a woman" may not be an option when push comes to shove. It's not the end of the world.[/quote]

You know, when people post that they want a scheduled c-section by choice, no one says “ok but when push comes to shove you have a higher maternal mortality risk. You might be dead but your baby will survive so its not the end of the world!” It would be nice to assume that the poster isn’t on DCUM from under a rock somewhere and is aware that in an emergency her preferred birth may not be possible.[/quote]

People definitely question/criticize women who opt for c-sections. Note: most of us have a legit medical reason for the scheduled c-section btw.

Additionally, the original post asks about hospital rates instead of doctor rates. If [b]that isn’t a red flag that she’s marching in the wrong direction[/b], …[/quote]

Except you also choose your doctor based on where they deliver. A hospital set up for vaginal birth has nurses who are trained in positioning, pain relief, etc. the nurses at INOVA Fairfax take Spinning Babies classes. It’s not a stupid question. [/quote]

All hospitals are set up for vaginal births. It’s literally Plan A.

Oy vey. [/quote]

Yes, but not all hospitals have the same facilities for vaginal birth— tubs vs showers, waterproof or mobile monitoring on demand, nurses who take courses in positioning….acting like the OP is somehow misguided for doing this research is condescending. Even hospitals with good setups might tell you they don’t have waterproof fetal monitors available…so what’s the point of that spa shower?[/quote]

Everything you just said should have been framed in a very different question than “c-section rates” if that’s truly the info the op was trying to secure. [/quote]

That’s a really ridiculous standard for answering a basic request for information from an OP. It’s ok to not have the information, denigrating a poster for even asking the question, as above, is sanctimonious and rude. [/quote]

But it’s the wrong question, and it’s reasonable to assume this is a FTM who is operating under misinformation that hospitals force women into unnecessary c-sections. Had she asked for individual doctor rates, that would make sense—provided she understands that doctors catering to AMA and high risk patients will obviously have skewed rates.

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If hospital rates do not reflect any unnecessary c-sections, why are VHC and INOVA trying so hard to bring them down? If every c-section is totally necessary there would be no use for a program like VHC’s and they certainly wouldn’t be bragging in WaPo about their great results…[/quote]

Unless they are shifting their business model to cater to mommies who are willing to pay out of pocket for a la carte services.

There’s a thread on luxury birthing amenities pointing to VA hospitals. Apparently it’s a thing. 
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Vaginal birth is “a la carte” now? [/quote]

It can be. Labor is throwing up "pink" flags, like baby's heart rate decelerates in certain positions, dilation stalled out, pushing is taking over 2 hours. Does the doctor stand there watching the fetal heart rate for hours (and get paid a fraction that of a C section) or label it failure to progress and tell the mom she needs a C section? [/quote]

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