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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All you ladies claiming you would be surrogates-- you do know you have to basically have IVF, right? Many, many  shots in your muscle and transvaginal ultrasounds.

I'm a veterinarian and we do this in cows and horses. It's called Embryo Transfer. The "genetically superior" female is super ovulated and many embryos are created. Then the animals that aren't as valuable are hormonally manipulated to accept the embryos of the female that is more highly valued.

See how I find it ethically gross to do to people? It sets up a system where certain people are more worthy b.c they have money, and that gives them the right to use another woman's body.

I know you will start yelling about people having free will- though there is lots of evidence of trafficking and coercion in the industry. A desperately poor person can easily be forced into being a gestational carrier.[/quote]

You are assuming the surrogate is also an egg donor which is an enormous leap. But so I guess now you are saying that women who go through fertility treatments are less valuable and that it is ethically gross to help infertile women have children? And you are the person supposedly looking out for the little guy here?

When these things are legal, there are protections in place to prevent the abuse of the system. When they are illegal, desperately poor people are more frequently coerced into these types of trafficking situations. Equating a normal gestational surrogate who is generally paid handsomely for a job they are willing to do to victims of human trafficking is an EGREGIOUS insult to victims of human trafficking. Jesus, like seriously.

These are consenting adults, entering into a transactional relationship surrounding a job one party is willing to do and that another party is willing to pay for. [/quote]

Are you tired from all the leaps you are making? You are wearing me TF out for sure. The procedure in farm animals is called EMBRYO TRANSFER. It's completely analogous to surrogacy in which the recipient has no genetic relation to the embryo. Do try to keep up, dear.

So there's no exploitation of women in India for surrogacy. It's legal there so therefore everything's above board. Right? [/quote]

LOL what??? This response doesn’t even make enough sense to respond to. [/quote]

You said embryo transfer in animals was equivalent to the surrogate being an egg donor then went off about infertility. It is not - as I said it's exactly equivalent to the surrogate having no genetic connection to the baby.

You said if it is legal then people won't be exploited. I stated that it is legal in India and there is PLENTY of evidence of coercion, trafficking and exploitation.[/quote]

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