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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, probably it's more important to learn how to prevent this from happening again than to discuss who was at fault, correct?

So, as a general rule:

1. Turn on your turn signal
2. Check to make sure there's nobody in the bike lane
3. Merge to the right in the merge area
4. Stop at the stop sign
5. Turn right

[b]The idea is that you're turning right from the right lane, just like you'd do if there were no bike lane[/b].

If you're turning right from the general lane, and there's a bike lane to the right of you, that's like turning right from the left lane of a street with two lanes going the same direction. [/quote]

100% WRONG.

Cars are not to use the bike lane as a right turn lane. Ever. Bike lanes are for bikes. Period. They are not a turn lane for cars. [/quote]

Sorry repeat to fix the quote formatting

The DC reg is written as follows:

2203.3Both the approach for a right turn and a right turn shall be made as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge or the roadway.

That would seem to imply you should be in the bike lane.

Also page 19 of this guide indicates that the driver was at fault because they didn’t get as far right as possible in the bike lane https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/d...e-Law-Pocket-Guide-Oct2012.pdf

I still think the cyclist should have stopped in OPs example. 
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Bike lanes are for bikes. [/quote]

Cyclist here.  I think the car turning right should have moved into the bike lane and the cyclist should have stopped.  I hate these intersections.  I've had buses and cars try to turn on top of me when we were both stopped and the stop sign together and they didn't think to check the bike lane.  It's much safer for the car to be in bike line (of course check before changing lanes are you would with a car!) obviously planning to turn.  The cyclist can either move to the car's left (proper side for going straight when someone is making a right) or stop further back until the car has completed their turn.  Many bike lanes in my area (not NW) have dashed lines for just this reason.  I am glad everyone was okay today, OP.[/quote]

I live in MoCo but have been confused as a driver what to do at turns when there are bike lanes- thinking of University Blvd. in particular.  I never know if I should move into the bike lanes to make a right hand turn or turn from the driving lane.  I've done both but not sure which is right- one time I turned from the car lane with my signal on but the car behind me moved over to the bike lanes to turn and we almost had an accident.[/quote]

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