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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think it's fantastic.  Study after study after study has confirmed the high correlation between family income and parental education and SAT and ACT scores.  Generally speaking, high scores were born on third base.  It doesn't make them any smarter.  [/quote]

Come on, people with 1500+ scores are objectively smarter than people with 1100.[/quote]

I disagree. Half of the SAT is math. I’m a successful middle aged professional and haven’t used math formally in 25 years. Intelligence is not math.[/quote]

DP. Completely agree.  I imagine many people who don't do well on the SAT/ACT due to the math section could write circles around those who do.  Frankly, I wish a timed writing sample was part of admissions, like the SAT/ACT writing section which has been discontinued.  [/quote]

Except there are plenty of people who ace math and English portions of SAT/ACT

like it or not, standardized tests are to some extent intelligence measures. [b]getting rid of them means excluding some very smart kids for whom HS did not totally click. [/b][/quote]

Or just not choosing them.  Do you have public school kids?  I do and grades are almost meaningless these days due to marked inflation.  Kids from mediocre to exemplary get straight As in many schools.  [/quote]

With high rigor, mediocre kids aren’t getting straight As. Average Joe isn’t getting straight As in multi variable or BC calculus and AP bio and AP lit. But it would be tougher to distinguish one self in places not offering higher level courses. [/quote]

Let's see: eliminate the SAT, eliminate AP classes, dismantle gifted programs. We're systematically eliminating any objective measurement of success. What are we so afraid of? Why can't we give all kids the opportunity to distinguish themselves. The fallacy that only high income kids do well on the SAT or in an AP class is just not accurate.

Without these measures, how is a college is supposed to determine who's ready for college?

The laughably obvious result will be that EVERY school will engage in rampant grade inflation. Even the schools that have held the line on honest grading will have no choice but to cave to a GPA-only environment. High-rigor schools have been honest in grading, in part, because the SAT is part of the picture. Without that guardrail, GPAs will become a joke across the board.

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