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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That's a nice story, but absent AA, a 1408 SAT score would be in the unqualified bucket for Harvard[/quote]

No, you are 100% wrong, you either can't read or are in denial. I am guessing you read just fine, so....

THEY.  ARE.  ALL.  QUALIFIED.

Harvard doesn't see strata within the qualified category as you do.  They don't see it because it doesn't exist in practicality.  That strata makes no difference to them.[/quote]

The average African American SAT section score is a 704. If you believe that a 1408 gets you into Harvard, I have a bride to sell you. [/quote]

So the data posted at 11/17/2021 15:02 is a lie?

/ps already have a bride, thanks.[/quote]

1408 plus URM gets you in. 1408 and white or asian gets laughed at. [/quote]

What is your point? Harvard doesn’t have to accept anyone based on SAT scores. I don’t get these arguments. Many people on this board think that Harvard’s admissions should be a merit-based and by that GPA and testing scores. [b]Even if AA were eliminated, do you really think the Harvard student demographics would look much different?[/b] [/quote]

We already have a case study with UC Berkley, and yes the demographics did change[/quote]

You can't compare UC Berkeley to Harvard because the UC system is a public institution and admissions standards are subject to state laws. If AA was eliminated, Harvard, as a PRIVATE institution can base admissions on other factors to get the class that it wants using 'holistic' criteria. For example, Harvard could create a floor GPA/SAT score or even eliminate standardized testing and use other criteria such as income, geography, HS as proxies to admit students using a race-blind application. And I would argue that is direction elite colleges are going, especially Harvard that clearly doesn't want an Asian-majority student body.

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if AA became illegal or if the Supreme Court somehow takes up this issue and rules current practices are discriminatory, they could try something like that, but they would most likely end up paying out a lot of settlements if they did.  [/quote]

Can you explain-- why would they pay settlements and to whom? My understanding is that what I suggested is legal--  the UC's do it too but it isn't very successful in getting the diversity that the system wants. Also, many gifted public K-12 programs have adopted the same tactic. This isn't considered an illegal way to get around a AA ban. I would think Harvard and other elite private schools would be more successful than the UC's.[/quote]

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