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Reply to "Just in place where I feel it sucks to be the parent of black children."
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] You [i]cannot [/i]generalize about what is being taught in American schools. Yes, real history is being taught in some places, but certainly not in places with right-wing school boards, which cover much of the country. And where so-called "real" history is being taught, it's of recent enough vintage that many of today's adults were not privy to those "real" history lessons. [b]Hell, many of them were raised on the Lost Cause narrative of the Civil War and Reconstruction, which was the [i]mainstream[/i] take in this country well into the late 20th century[/b]. There is most certainly a project to make it more difficult for schools to teach the darker chapters, as exemplified by the moves to ban titles about civil rights heroes, etc. When the standard (as inscribed in legislation being pushed around the country) is we can't teach anything that makes any group feel bad, the real goal is a scrubbing of American history of anything but the heroic (even though the heroic and tragic are often inextricably linked). No. This is part of a long-term project to establish Patriotic Education such as that seen in the PRC. The parents that got riled up by so-called CRT were useful pawns in that enterprise, as were the wokie dokes of the day (i.e., Kendi and co.) who played the role of convenient foils that even most black folks could care less about. Classic strategy of misdirection that the GOP used (and will continue to use) to scare up votes, win elections, and then [i]continue[/i] their effort to make it more difficult for black folks to vote (and/or easier to toss their votes out). That is the real material, practical outcome of all this. [/quote] Oh jeez. Lost Cause? No kid is taught that in school. [b]No adult learned that in school.[/b] That's what you think you're fighting? Really?[/quote] Uhh...yes, many living-breathing adults today were, in fact, raised on the Lost Cause narrative. Period. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/slavery-history-virginia-textbook/2020/07/31/d8571eda-d1f0-11ea-8c55-61e7fa5e82ab_story.html [/quote] That writer was in 4th grade in 67. He's a Boomer. Do we really need to fight about what Boomers learned in grade school? We didn't learn that in 4th grade. [b]Can we look at what our 4th graders are learning now? [/b] [/quote] Yes - let’s look at that. You seem to imply that American schools have almost universally long since provided students with an accurate accounting on slavery, the Civil War, and it’s aftermath. This is decidedly not the case. https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2019/08/28/teaching-slavery-schools/ [/quote] This WaPo article is a joke with an agenda. I have been teaching history for almost 20 years and have been reviewing textbooks, curriculum catalogs and lesson plans throughout that period. No one is hiding the truth about slavery. In fact, because many curricula focus on oppression narratives to the exclusion of other stories, and the resulting impression of U.S. history is overwhelmingly negative or leaves tremendous gaps in knowledge. Other lesson plans make assertions that are not based in data and sources but follow a certain narrative that becomes popular with teachers who lack content knowledge (See 1619 Project as one example). If you are concerned, please review the materials used in your own school district. You will definitely not find what you imagine. [/quote] Agree 100%. The WaPo has become a pathetic joke. It can no longer be considered journalism in any sense of the word.[/quote] The emphasis on slavery means little and is actually a cynical diversion from the more proximately relevant story of how black folks were systematically excluded from the New Deal and Post-WWII largesse that created the white middle class as we know it today. Frankly, casting slavery as the central “oppression narrative” is convenient for many people who can honestly say that they never owned a slave or benefited from slavery, and at any rate, no one today was a slave right. Yeah - slavery was bad, failed reconstruction was a tragic betrayal, but even as recent as mid 20th century, the country had a chance to extend real economic opportunity to black folks. But, as whites (including recent immigrants) were elevated into the new middle class by the GI bill, FHA loans to buy homes, etc., black folks were told to take a hike, your sacrifices in WWII be damned. Here’s the real test: how many 18-35 years olds are aware of this history? Most Americans don’t have clue…and don’t want one. [/quote]
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