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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]He supports Trump, and the big lie, but distanced himself from it.  He made up some CRT bullshit that isn’t real to scare white women.  That it worked makes the lies successful, but he still clawed his way into office without a primary, without any real policy issues, and by telling lies.  Hard to feel good about that.

Im ok with switching parties in leadership from time to time, but id rather it not be a Trump Republican.  I just can’t trust people willing to tear down faith in democracy and politicizing a pandemic.  Their just isn’t anything beneath people like that.[/quote]
The fight against CRT in K-12 has been going on for about a two years.  Only recently did it rear it's head in VA so Youngkin didn't make it up.[/quote]

Forget about labels. Please articulate what specifically was being taught in VA classrooms that you think should stop.

Or is it the [i]possibility[/i] that CRT may be taught in the future, as other posters have said? 
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The most common way CRT is showing up in K-12 is the teaching of anti-racism which is more often than not, racism.  And the most common way anti-racism it taught it with books like Stamped by Kendi.  Kendi advocates for discrimination against whites and attempts to indoctrinate kids with this belief in his book.  His coauthor admitted this in an interview with Trevor Noah last year.[/quote]

For years parents complained teachers taught to the test. Please show me where in the SOLs there is any mention of CRT or “anti-racism.’l

And stop with the nonsense that anti-racism is in fact racism. That’s some Orwellian doublespeak right there. I am fully cognizant of the fascist impulses of right-wingers, but keep that stuff out of our schools. The irony here is palpable.[/quote]

OMG, stop with this nonsense.  You are in the minority with your way of thinking regarding the schools and that is why you lost.  AGAIN, for the 1000th time, it does not matter whether CRT is referred to specifically anywhere.  People see through what school boards thought was a sly angle to push the agenda regardless of what you call it.  Have you not read these boards.  These are not right-wingers upset with the school "stuff" being taught.   [/quote]

How should we talk about racism and biases?

What are the acceptable ways? 
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I would like math class to be about math and same for science, English, reading, spelling etc.  I would like for elementary schools to pretty much focus on laying the groundwork for a solid education that the upper level schools can build on and not even lay so much of societies' issues on little kids.  There is plenty of time for that.  Teach the golden rule - treat others as you would like to be treated.  Correct issues if and when they arise and use that as a teachable moment.  I just do not think elementary kids need to be delving into societal issues just yet and sticking with straight up three Rs is a better approach to a well-educated child.  Let middle school introduce these concepts and high school continue to encourage kids to really debate the issues and not just get a one-sided teachers' union/NEA agenda shoved down their throats.  [/quote]

So you think there should be no discussion about racism or biases in ES. Even for the teachers?

What about MS/HS?

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Nope.  How about teaching the little kids to just be nice to each other, help others and teach what being a good friend means ?  That really sort of takes care of the issue for that age group.  I addressed middle and high school.   Why can't the base for further discussion be laid in a positive way?  IMO, kids will be more likely to recognize and stand up against racism when the groundwork is positive and about being kind to everyone than making people feel bad and pointing out the differences in people from the time they are little.  As they get older, then more examples and debate can take place.  [/quote]

I meant should the teachers (adults) get anti-bias training for themselves. Not something they would “teach” to kids. Anti-bias training has been around forever. When did that get controversial?

What does it mean to teach about racism “positively”?

What age would be appropriate for reading Kendi and other modern civil rights advocates?

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Looks like a couple of people are answering here, but I will address your ?s regarding my PP.

IDK if teachers need anti-bias training.  Do you know of a huge number of racist teachers?  I would hope their training in general teaches them to treat all students equally and with respect.  Seems like the time and money spent on this could be better directed at helping students lagging behind or needing other types of support from the school.

I don't think you teach racism positively, I think you teach children positively, at least at the elementary level.  I mentioned about just teaching them to be good friends, help each other, be kind to each other, be good citizens.  Highlight goals accomplished with people of all races working together and achieving a common goal.  Reinforce the positives of everyone bringing something different culturally to the table and why that is good.  Reinforce the ways we complement each other rather than the divisiveness.   I don't think it should be part of the lessen plan, as I am much more about focusing on laying the groundwork that the rest of their schooling will be based on, but positive reinforcement and highlighting achievements when working together should be the underlying theme in the classroom at this age.  
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I agree with this!

To add to it, all this ‘anti-bias’ training, [b]do we have studies showing that it works[/b]?  Or is it just some private companies making a killing putting out bogus videos that are made up of nonsense.  Because the ones I have seen are pretty ridiculous.

You know what our public schools need?  A strong curriculum, good teachers, better disciplinary actions.  That will help kids of ALL colors.  [/quote]

Well, at least we are all talking about it now. So in some ways that shows some level of success. 
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Wait, what?  Just because we ‘talk’ about something, it’s a success?

Is that how our public schools should choose curriculum?  No thanks.  THIS is why parent and taxpayers deserve a say.

If a school system is going to spend million of dollars purchasing a curriculum, it should be clear that it is a proven curriculum with good results.  Otherwise, anyone can implant any crap curriculum at any time.  (Which is what happened in MCPS with Curriculum 2.0)[/quote]

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