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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Looking at Scattergrams, there are many kids with low grades but high test scores. There are few with high grades but low scores. Things track pretty well. [/quote]

There are so many students with very high GPAs and low test scores. This is why they are applying test optional. [/quote]

This is why SATs matter. [/quote]

how do you figure? if a kid has a very high GPA in a competitive HS, why should they also HAVE to have a high SAT? My DS is an anxious standardized test taker, he literally threw up on the way to one of his APs exams. Also, we cannot afford test prep so everything was done in Khan Academy for free. So the fact that he gets nervous in those situations and we can't afford thousands in test prep should invalidate the fact that he has demonstrated over the course of 11+ years that he is capable of learning and understanding the required material at a high level?   I do not think is score is bad, but if I posted it here, you would all say, omg awful should go to a comm college LOL Regardless, most kids with his GPA had a higher SAT/ACT score, but that does not mean he is less prepared or capable in college. In fact he has a 4.0 currently.

Some people are just good standardized test takers, others are not and/or not able to afford the prep that many others can.[/quote]

And you can explain why the score is low and the grades are high in the application. Look, you hate the test because it is the place where your kid doesn't shine. Your kid has trouble with this one part of the application. It isn't the only thing they will look at.

However, as you see on here, two kids at different schools both get 79.5 and 89.5 semester grades and one gets a B- final grade and other gets an A. So the college sorting machine cuts out one for having a 3.5 and keeps the other for having a 4.0. Colleges cannot truly grasp the differences in grading among schools -- some sure, but not all of them. If the college also gets to see that 3.5 kid got a 1500 in one sitting of the SAT and kid 2 got a 1290, it might make them look at those two kids a little more holistically to see what gives. You don't want that, but why should anxious bad test taker be given an automatic advantage over the other kid with the same percentage grade simply because your district grossly inflates GPAs?[/quote]

Lots of good points. You also have to consider kids like my DC who is perfectly capable of doing A+ work, but has executive function issues / ADHD and often has forgotten to turn in the work after doing it or forgot to do it but could have done an excellent job if they hadn't forgotten, then gets points off for the assignment being late, and it's because of such situations that their gpa is lower than their classmates. Not because DC is any less intellectual or smart or capable of understanding the material and engaging with it.  And in fact, DC's high standardized test scores -- across the board-- demonstrate this, and it's why we are grateful to have those test scores be a part of the application. Doesn't mean we expect DC to get in to selective schools, but it will demonstrate to matches that they are, indeed, a student with potential.
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