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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]** I forgot Michigan
1.Harvard, Stanford
3.MIT, Princeton,
5. Yale, Columbia
7. U Chicago, Caltech, John's Hopkins, Upenn
11. Duke, Northwestern, Brown
14. Dartmouth,*UCB
16. Cornell, *UCLA, Vanderbilt
19. Rice, Carnegie Mellon, WashU, Emory, Notre Dame, Georgetown
25. Gatech, UNC, UVA, Michigan
29. UT Austin, Wisconsin-Madison[/quote]

Johns Hopkins should not be that high... I'd put it alongside Dartmouth/UCB/Cornell/UCLA. Vanderbilt should also be one tier down.[/quote]

JHU is easily a top 10 institution.  It is hard as hell, and you don't get watered down garbage courses/grades like you do at other 'top' institutions that will not be named.  I went to a top 50 undergrad institution, then did my PhD at JHU where I had to teach undergrads.  The undergrads at JHU are just on a whole different level of intelligence.  JHU gets bad marks for 'undergrad life' simply because it is so hard and all the kids do is study their tails off.  Almost every single undergrad and grad student I know from my entire time there went on to med school, wall street, top 3 consulting firms, or top 5-10 grad schools.  JHU has extraordinary placement in med schools - 100% of the kids who worked in our lab for undergrad research ended up going to med school at places like UCSF, Stanford, Harvard, and Einstein.

Also, JHU is ranked high because of its grad programs - this is a peer reputation ranking.  JHU gets the most funding from the NIH out of any university, and has a top 3 med school.  JHU is always near the top in terms of publications relative to impact factor (and given its size), plus always punches above its weight for patents generated.  [/quote]

JHU too high.  Belongs in 14 with Dartmouth, Berkeley, etc.[/quote]

Also Columbia should be one below with Chicago[/quote]

Not really. It seems to be more on a tier of its own. Chicago has no engineering programs, big killer. It’s not as comprehensive as Columbia in many respects. Penn should be a level up for its comprehensive programs as Columbia, with top notch business, medical, and law programs. [/quote]

Chicago literally blows Columbia out of the water in economics and business[/quote]

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