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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]All I know is the idea that we have had a meritocracy anywhere in this country is laughable.

I mean come on. Raise your hand if you've ever worked somewhere where the most capable people (usually women in my experience) were overlooked for promotions in favor of inexperienced, incompetent candidates (usually men in my experience, yours might be different).

So many uninspiring incompetent upper management / admin staff pulling the big bucks while the sharper worker bees who know what they’re doing get nothing. Meritocracy has nothing to do with it.

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I think you make a good point.  People are framing it as though DE&I initiatives are moving us further from a meritocracy, as though we are anything close to that.  In fact, to answer the OP's question, maybe the "long term goal" of DE&I is to create the meritocracy that has never existed...[/quote]

That is exactly the goal of D&I initiatives.  In the old system all the competitors lined up on the starting line, the gun was fired, and people finished in the order they finished.

Now with D&I, we are expected to assume that if the race of the winners doesn't match expectations we have to simply select winners based on their race. (or game the rules of the race enough that we get the outcome we want.)

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Can you cite specific examples of this? Not theoretical, but real life examples where you have seen this happen. Thanks.[/quote]

DP. I work for a large govt contractor. Senior management had a sudden "realization" that their recruitment pipeline has not been very diverse for decades. In a knee-jerk response, they started pushing D&I stuff in a crummy way. Our middle managers started making staffing decisions based on race, largely independent of qualifications, so they could report back that diversity has been improving in their departments. It's insulting to my many, highly qualified colleagues of color, breeds secret resentfulness w/ many of my white colleagues, and is extremely shortsighted.

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Case in point.
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Well that would be an example of DE&I done wrong.  It is not an indictment of all DE&I.[/quote]

#NotAllDE&I[/quote]

#MostDE&I[/quote]

You seem to be suggesting that non-white people aren't qualified for jobs. Why is that?[/quote]

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