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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My kids didn't go for or get into the Ivies or anything, and there's no shame in that.   But they did end up at schools that would impress DCUM and that are better than any of the schools that their friends went to. I often detected a hit of embarrassment, disappointment, jealousy and defensiveness when discussing college acceptances.  I actually think it affected friendships among parents.  Very sad.   [/quote]

:roll: if you say Rice or Duke or Vandy or Emory and think it's impressive because they applied ED and you can afford it, so they got a boost in front of other kids with better stats, think twice ... I have an acquaintance who's kid got in one of those and price tag was >75k per year, the spouse was not happy about it and didn't think it's worth it over the in-state; I couldn't have cared less that their kid goes to one of those non-ivy top 20, maybe I would have a bit if it was Princeton, I really like Princeton for some reason and my kid didn't even apply, likely had no real chance but I know kids with perfect SAT and >3 perfect SAT subjects, and internships and >12 APs all with 5 that didn't get in, the kid needs hooks[/quote]

Princeton accepts about 1 in 20 applicants, all of whom are completely qualified to get into Princeton. How do they select the "winners"? I'm sure it's somewhat arbitrary. They do not have enough space to accept all the qualified applicants. Sports, legacies and some extraordinary ECs might get a kid into Princeton, but absent those hooks, a super bright, talented, great all-around kid has a very small chance of getting accepted simply because of the numbers. It's a lottery, essentially. The highest grades and test scores don't matter because everyone who applies has high grades and test scores. A hook can be useful, but it's more about luck than anything else.
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