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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]IMPACT and rewards are simply disgusting. It's long established that 'rewards' are an ineffective way to motivate students. Why different for teachers? It's bad pedagogy in skill development.
Teachers should practice reflective teaching within professional learning communities, and be measured against the reasonable and wonderful goals they set, a reflective piece in which they themselves discuss the strides they made and areas where they still seek to improve, and projects they enact. individual PD could be tied to their goal setting. Buddying up with another teacher for safe, productive and honest feedback etc. This whole system is so top down it makes me ill. It's sole goal is compliancy--something I would never make the center of my classroom teaching.[/quote]

Actually reinforcement has long proven by behavioral psychology. What do you think a paycheck is? 
And I don’t think impact is meant to develop a skill, it’s meant to reward teachers who already have the skills or professionally develop to have them.

You know an evaluation is used to measure where you are and then it’s YOUR job to get to a better place if you did badly on an evaluation. Teachers are adults or did someone hold your hand in college too?

What makes me sick is most teachers taking a 1.5 year break and still expect to be coddled. You can do all those things at your school and still be rewarded.
And oh? A 25k a year pay increase is definitely motivating to many people. Tired of teachers with this holier than thou attitude. [/quote]

You are really behind on the times. Read &quot;Punished by Rewards&quot; and similar research on focusing on extrinsic motivation and how damaging it is to kids. Also, there are numerous recent studies on how clumsy and ineffective most topdown checklisty and formulaic workplace evaluations are. Not sure why IMPACt would be the exception. Read up![/quote]

You can just read about behavioral psychology. Some people do not have intrinsic motivation or do you assume all people are the same?
Also rewards do not have to have punishments. And I also called it reinforcement not a reward. If person A does x and gets something they like they’ll likely keep doing it.
Just like I am a teacher because I like kids and teaching, I deal with impact because I like the things money can buy. Simple.

And why tf are you talking about kids rn, are you one?

You also seem to think I’d like to keep impact, I like the reinforcement it gives me to continue dealing with it. Just like someone who hates their job continues for the paycheck.

Regardless impact could be leaving but I highly doubt the reward system will, most teachers do like that. Especially new teachers which we have a TON of. So I 100% think they’ll keep LIFT. And despite what you think teachers do need an evaluation tool that allows them to be fired after a certain amount of time of being poor at their jobs.[/quote]

NP but IMPACT does have a punishment though; you can have your salary frozen if you get below effective, which isn’t that hard to know. I’ve seen friends get stuck with a 2.99 bc their admin found a way to take points off for spurious reasons.[/quote]

You know how I know that’s BS? Because they round up your score. I have received a 3.45 and it was rounded up to 3.5. You can email the Impact team and confirm this information. And I did not ask for them to round it up, it is automatic.

And that is not a punishment it’s a consequence, there is a difference.

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Am I understanding correctly that your 3.45 rounded up to a 3.5 and HE?  I scored a 3.48 three years ago and my score was not rounded up. I didn't know that was a possibility. Does anyone know if this is true because if so I would love to email and find out.[/quote]

They do not round in the ones or hundredths place (depending on the way you look its reported). I've gotten HE a couple of times before, but I have also gotten a 347, 349 and a 346. Never rounded. They do round to the nearest whole number (when reporting the score in the hundreds) or the nearest hundredth when reporting the score. [/quote]

Yes…I never said if you got a 347 you’d get 350…. To get 350 you need 349.5 and it must be the final score. They do not round up EP scores or the like.

I emailed impact last night after feeling weird about people’s responses. I am not special, there’s no way they’d specially round up my score. And the reply came back, they round up ALL FINAL scores. Final scores only.

So if you scored 349.5+ you got HE. and I gave you the wrong score, I got 349.55 not .45. [/quote]

That's accurate, but also *not* what you said before so. &lt;&lt;shrug&gt;&gt;[/quote]

Uh yes it is. Where TF did I say if you got a 347 they’d round to 350?

My comment was a response to the lying poster who said friends got 299.99, that is a LIE. That would be rounded to 300.[/quote]

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