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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, I was just thinking that this morning.

Seems like people should take into account the trickle down of good students. As the number of applicants to top schools has increased while the number of spots has remained constant, kids that in the past would have gotten into Ivies are now going one tier down. The second tier kids are now going third tier and on and on. There are plenty of smart kids at all of the top 100 schools so we need to rethink how we perceive certain schools. 
Something that I remember hearing back when I was touring colleges - schools that are in good locations attract good professors. So even if you may think Northeastern isn't so great, Boston can attract good profs. [/quote]

Agreed. For national universities, maybe something like this: tier 1 = top 10; tier 2 = 11-25ish. That said, placed in the context of 4000 colleges, anyone attending one of these colleges is attending an elite institution. The notion that smart kids are only at Ivies is nonsense. [/quote]

Or, you could start by realizing that there is no such thing as tiers. There are lots of great schools that are filled with more than any kid could possibly learn. Find one you like and can afford. That is all. [/quote]

+1000000. Thank you[/quote]

The ordinal ranking of USNWR causes an inordinate focus on rankings often based minute differences on metrics, and those metrics often have nothing to do with outcomes or quality of education.  They are much more based on inputs.  A tier system like the "tier 1 = top 10, tier 2 = 11-25ish" is similarly arbitrary.  Based on current USNWR, that would put Northwestern in Tier 1 and Duke in Tier 2.  I can't see any justification for that.

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Well yeah, no one should consider the USNews ranking to be anywhere near definite.

People do not consider Harvard to be peers with Northwestern, so by definition they are not in the same tier. 
Even a school like Caltech, which is ranked similarly to Northwestern, is going to be considered more elite/prestigious/impressive than Northwestern.

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