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I read this article and was thinking the same thing...what harm would it have done to call 911? I couldn't stop thinking about Jayna again after I read about that testimony...how could you hear words and sounds like that and not intervene in some way? It was haunting me last night when I went to bed...I guess I'm not the only one. That poor girl. Someone heard her asking for help. And they didn't do anything. I wonder if these employees are struggling with that. 
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I don't know if this makes it better or worse, but my read on the article was that there was a struggle and screams and (presumably Jayna) was heard pleading with the attacker "let's talk about this, what are you doing, etc" but then there was a silence, then later, a different woman (presumably Brittany) was saying "god please help me, please help me."

So to me, that actually seems like yeah, something pretty f8'd up went down over there. Harder to imagine someone not calling. But I don't think, to be fair, at any point they heard Jayna screaming for help. Then again, thank god, I wasn't there. And maybe I'm misreading the article. [/quote]

No, this is how I read it, too.  They thought some fight was going on, but Jayna didn't call for help.  She was pleading with her killer, but what they heard her say was hardly asking someone else to intervene.  Maybe they should have.  I hope I would have - I have called the police many times for suspicious cars, and even a baby riding without a car seat on I-66.  But I don't think any one of us can claim we KNOW we would have called 911 in that situation.  We all have the benefit of hindsight.[/quote]

Unless someone physically restrained me, I do know that I would have called 911 if I heard anyone screaming, along with the other sounds they've described. I've called 911 for less--when I thought [b]someone was having car trouble, a woman walking along the interstate with a blanket wrapped around her and clearly muttering to herself, a man in a convertible hitting his dog, [/b]etc.[/quote]

[b]You really call the police on people regarding those things? You would annoy me. [/b][/quote]

Wow, you sound really awful. You scare me.

I call the police when I see someone in any kind of danger or potential danger. It's my civic duty to watch out for people who may not be able to help themselves. Better safe than sorry. [/quote]

I am the poster who said it would annoy me, because like someone else has mentioned, that is not the time to call 911, it is the time to call the non emergency number. Thank you, and you can go back to being scared now, as I go back to being awful because I do not tie up 911's lines for non life threatening issues.[/quote]

I'm the poster who said I've made those calls. They WERE life-threatening because they were occurring on or alongside city interstates when people were driving. Feel free to be annoyed; I'll keep calling when I see those types of situations. The woman with the blanket was clearly either mentally ill or under the influence of something. [/quote]

Life threatening?  Car trouble?  [b]So, if your car overheated on 495, you would call 911?  Really? [/b]

Life threatening?  Someone hitting a dog?  911?  I love dogs; I have a dog.  I would not dream of wasting my and my fellow taxpayers money by phoning 911 about someone hitting their dog.

The only one that is even borderline is the woman on the side of the interstate, but even that could have been solved calling the non-emergency number and letting the police determine whether it was more important than other calls.[/quote]

If your car overheats while you're driving on the interstate in heavy traffic and stalls in rush hour traffic, what would you consider an appropriate response from other drivers? Nothing?[/quote]

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