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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Another Ref here:

1.  Reminder that most of us who Ref in the DMV are on multiple assignor lists.  So the idea that leagues like NCLS or EDP or CCL have markedly different refs isn't true.  HOWEVER, DA/GA/ECNL refs are generally better because either the assignor lets them know of availability early, or when multiple refs sign up, the assignor makes sure to assign the better refs.  Frankly, when I have done AR for ECNL/DA, I have found the parents/players to be better about knowing the LotG, and I know I felt like I needed to be at my best as well.

2. Overweight men - in general, bad parents and coaches have made reffing so unpalatable that the only people willing to do it are men for whom the money is not the most important aspect.

3.  There are absolutely some bad refs in the DMV.  I have worked with them, and [b]it's not enjoyable[/b].  But the reality is, every weekend we'll get a 2:00 am email from Tarey or another assignor with a dozen games that still need an AR or even a CR. So parents being crappy to refs means there is a ref shortage, which means the assignors have no choice but to give games to refs who everyone knows aren't great. Thing is, even the crappy refs know the LotG better than the vast vast vast majority of parents. But if you scare off the kids learning to ref, then you are left with weak refs. It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.[/quote]

I agree.  It is not enjoyable working with bad referees.  When the center is missing fouls, the ARs hear it from the parents. And here is the thing that a lot of parents don't understand.  [b]The center referee is in charge[/b].  Before each game, the referees meet and the center gives some instructions. Some say...call what you see. Some say...do not call a foul unless I feel down and I'm laying 340 yards from the play. Some say only call a foul if I make eye contact with you and make a motion that I'm looking for help. etc etc etc.  So there are times I may see something that I might call a foul but the center is closer to the play than I am.  I'm not raising my flag.  There might be a handball that I would or wouldn't have called. The center is right there.  I'm not raising my flag.  However, I'm the one hearing it from all the parents...or the coach.  One day the center told me...they are just kids.  I'm not calling foul throws.  I'll won't work with him.  There are referees that can't run and don't get back on break aways, etc.  I don't work with them anymore. [/quote]

A thousand times this!  if you have a CR that decides not to call something, there's really nothing an AR can do, so yelling at the AR is pointless.  I was AR for a game where a kid 100% intentionally threw a throw-in at the face of an opposing player at close range.  Kid goes down, eye is swelling almost instantly.  By Law, it's a straight Red (Law 12, and[b] supplemental information under Advice at 15.8[/b]).  There's no question about the call, and yet the CR trots over to me and says "(kid) didn't mean it".  No card, not even a caution. The parent whose kid got assaulted let me have it for much of the rest of the game and I just had to take it.  I will never work with that CR again.

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How do I find the supplemental advice?  Do you have a link?
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