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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Mild respiratory disease that happens every 10-20 years?

When did 200000+ people in US die in the last 2 decades based on one mild respiratory disease in less than half a year?[/quote]

1.  The 200,000 number is highly unreliable both because it's very questionable whether 200,000 people really died from covid, and because we had an exceptionally mild 'flu season last year, and therefore unsurprisingly whatever bug goes around this year results in more deaths than in other years.

2.  Population is significantly higher now than previously so the important factor is % of population.

3.  We should consider the world, not the US in isolation.

Interesting data points:

1.  Only ~10,000 have covid listed as the primary cause of death.  The remaining "covid deaths" were recorded by the attending doctor as primarily due to something else.  In ~70,000 cases pneumonia was also listed as a contributory cause so covid probably played a large role in some of these - although it's also more than possible that the pneumonia resulted from unnecessary hospitalization as a result of covid hysteria as pneumonia circulates freely in hospitals and kills many patients who otherwise would not have died.

2.  A great many of these deaths were the result of putting people on ventilators who should not have been put on ventilators.  Estimates vary but this is likely at least 30,000 of the fatalities and  could be over 50,000.

3.  Many countries had a very mild ILI season last year.  Looking at excess deaths over two years reveals a very small number of excess deaths indeed.  And those countries who had a normal flu season last year have not seen any significant excess deaths this year.

4.  There are many countries where excess deaths from covid are similar to an ordinary 'flu year.  Why are countries seeing such dissimilar results?  Perhaps it is the different measures adopted - yes that is possible - but it seems far more likely to me to be the way we are counting the statistics.  If we counted herpes statistics the way we count covid, we would be claiming that herpes had killed ~2 million people so far this year...

In any event, even accepting the dubious statistics, globally the Asian 'flu (1958) and the Hong Kong 'flu (1968) were both clearly far more serious than this outbreak and 1999-2000 appears to have been very similar.

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