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Good coaches know how this works, as do good players.  Parents rarely understand any of this.  But the question is why are supporting role players leaving? [/quote] 
Give some parents some credit, some absolutely understand this. I wasn't aware that supporting role players only stayed supporting roles day to day, week to week, year to year, etc from u9 to u19. 
[quote]Because they are not getting enough publicity?  [/quote] not my kid, but getting cropped out of your teams social media photo is kind of a big thing.. 
[quote]Respect from the coach?  Respect from teammates?  [/quote] those are 2 extremely good reasons to find a better fit.
[quote]Because they would rather be playing a different role?  (Doesn't everybody?) [/quote] stop projecting, but I've never seen a coach REALLY ask a kid and develop that even if they aren't the preferred or backup. They shuffle them out somewhere else.
[quote]Isn't the satisfaction of knowing how good you are sufficient?  [/quote] LOL... what planet do you live on?
[quote]Why does recognition of others mean so much to people on this board?  [/quote] again LOL..

[quote]I can understand if the coach and club are making poor decisions and favoring kids whom nonexpert parents think are overrated.  But I think a lot of parents are struggling with the idea there should be any favoritism in travel soccer. [/quote] Non-expert parents? Hahaha.. they pay you to be the experts, favor a kid this week or next to build confidence, but spread it out, it's not an individual sport, they all need favor sometime over the course of their careers, pro or not, best technical player or not, fastest player or not.  What i think they are struggling is how long you, coach, are going to obsess and overhype until they realize it's just one player of a team.

[quote]And if you think all of this is irrelevant at U13 or younger, I assume you also object to the assortment of teams into first, second, third fourth, etc?  Why don't a lot of the same points apply to placing kids on different teams based on their perceived level? [/quote]I don't think anyone *really* objects, a good fit is a good fit. But make sure it's legitimate and not blatant favoritism, nepotism, politics, etc.

[quote]We know there are observable differences in skill and athletic ability at any given point in time -- that's why.  Nobody is saying those are locked in.  And most clubs have no problems rotating kids among these teams depending on their performance, at least the good ones.  [/quote] TBH, I've seen many spots that appeared on lock for certain players and it has taken a loooong time to figuratively defenestrate those "impact" players at the "good ones". And by that time it's an outside player taking that spot, hmmm...

I saw someone post earlier about 90% completion of passes.. so can players use game statistics, more specifically lack of success in them, to bring to their coach in defense of moving an overhyped kid out of that impact position and giving someone else a shot? inshallah 
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The planet I live on is a pretty successful one. If your kids (or more accurately, you) need the coaches to do more than respect your kid and treat them fairly (not necessarily equally), your kids (and you) are in for a rough ride. Positive feedback dependency is a lifelong handicap. [/quote]

I think we are interpreting a number of comments very differently. I do not expect equal playing time. Positive feedback is not even on my radar in terms of this conversation. My issue is when kids are being taught to always get the ball to Jimmy, they are not being encouraged to carry it when they can, to find open teammates with clear paths to the net. Instead, they are being encouraged to set up one favored teammate for achievement, at the detriment of the other teammates who are getting open, getting in perfect position, but will not get the ball touches, chances to take on a defender, or take a shot, simply because they are not "Jimmy." This may make sense at the professional level, but where you are paying for coaches to develop your kids, having them there simply to be the supporting cast to a kid deemed more important, who is not paying any more than you are, is every reason to leave the team. Even more so if your kid is Jimmy's back up, and does not even get to play unless Jimmy wants a water break. Little Jimmy's parents often think everyone is just jealous of Jimmy. Maybe some are, but there are others who just logically know it is not an environment where their child is getting what they are paying for, so it's time to move on. [/quote]

I like this explanation, it sets up the reasonable discussion of this youth environment. Although I’ve heard the argument that Jimmy is needed so everyone else can get better, i havent seen that really pan out. In fact, its been mostly the opposite result, no one buys into the long term vision. [/quote]

On really good teams, Jimmy will leave if other players don’t develop or progress, so Jimmy and parents often know this and want to see others develop as well. [/quote]

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