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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I really don't think a disparate impact approach is going to work here, because the only way to argue "disparate impact" is to uphold the status quo. Yes, a lottery will have a disparate impact on Asian and white students, but only insofar as NOT having a lottery upholds the current status quo, which is really not how that legal argument has traditionally been interpreted. [/quote] The lottery will increase white students! It only reduces Asian American students.[/quote] Please note white students don't want to go here. White applications have been declining and white acceptance has been declining.[/quote] Likely true in general. But if they implement a lottery, Asian numbers will decrease because many kids gun for TJ starting in elementary school and lottery reduces the prep advantage. Don't get me wrong, I assume white kids gun for TJ too, but at smaller numbers. The thing I don't understand from reading the threads is (I'm generalizing/summarizing): White students don't want to go to TJ. Brown students don't want to go to TJ. Asian students really want to go to TJ. And we do a lottery which will lead to fewer Asian students going to TJ? In what kind of suck ass county does that make sense?[/quote] The kind of county that realizes that many students don't want to go to TJ as it is now because it is too much of a rat race/pressure cooker because of an over emphasis on prepping by the students who currently attend TJ. If the rat race environment is reduced by the new admissions process, a broader cross section of kids will want to go there. [/quote] But it's the rat race that put TJ on the map. Before the rat race started in the 80's, it was just a regular, underutilized HS in Alexandria. So we have a chicken and egg problem. [/quote] Believe it or not, it is possible to have an advanced STEM curriculum with excellent students WITHOUT the rat-race issue. [/quote] I believe it, there are advanced STEM curriculums all over the country. What I'm saying is there's probably no other public high school where half of the graduating class are NMSQT semifinalists, sends 10+ students each to Harvard/Yale/Princeton/MIT/Stanford every year, in additional to ~100 each to UVA and Virginia Tech. That piques people's interests, and makes companies want to donate to TJ...hence you get all this sophisticated STEM equipment that other advanced STEM high schools don't have. If you want to turn TJ into another Langley/Mclean HS, then sure do the lottery. [/quote] So many errors! I picture you jumping up and down with steam gushing from your ears! Half nsf semi finalists? Less than a third are. 10 to Stanford every year? They have not sent nearly that many for many years! 100 to uva and va tech! Check the actual numbers...nowhere near that. [/quote] For 2020, UVA was 40, W&M 19, and VT 16. These have all been going down over time. Back in 2012 it was UVA 105, W&M 55, VT 25. More and more TJ graduates are going out of state. [/quote] The tjtoday list doesn't look like it adds up to 440. List is likely incomplete because some students don't respond. [/quote]
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