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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm a white TJ graduate and I would be FINE if the percentage of white students stayed the same or (even better) went down, while the percentages of other under-represented minorities became more balanced across the board. I definitely don't care about making TJ white again. I do care about giving black and brown students (esp from disadvantaged backgrounds) a chance.

And, since I obv have no skin in the game as an old person alumni, I'll say that if my kid was applying to TJ (he isn't; we don't live in Fx anymore), I'd be fine if he wasn't accepted so that a student of color could attend. My kid gets lots of privilege from his parents' status as white people, and, while TJ might be a great opportunity for him, it's perfectly acceptable to me to give up a "spot" so others without that kind of systemic privilege have more opportunity.

Please don't assume that all alumni (or even most) support admission reform b/c they want TJ to be more white again. [/quote]

I think it is about making TJ less Asian, than more white. This is systemic racism towards Asians. Most Asians are immigrants with no family money or white privilege backing them.  They are not large enough to have a voice being still a minority community and many still have language barriers and poor writing skills. FCPS should not try to bring down one population at the expense of another. [/quote]

Understand that if the top tier school is 80% Asian it is discriminatory to AA and Hispanics.  Clearly the Asians are being admitted so they are not being discriminated against.

We do not do "separate but equal" education in the United States of American. It is illegal in the US and has been since the 1950's and 1960's.

If PP wants an Asian only school you will probably need to go to your home country.  Not admitting AA and Hispanics into a school is illegal in the US.

We used to have [b]separate but equal schools[/b] in the 1950's in Virginia. That was called segregation. It is illegal in the US.[/quote]

Do you realize that the school is not actually picking someone because they are asian?  The majority of the people doing the selection are white? There is no restriction of blacks and hispanics to apply to the school and they will be considered equally?

Do you even know the law?[/quote]

I agree.  The whole "separate but equal schools" logic made no sense to the earlier comment by some poster or on in the one from this poster.  On the previous one, [b]someone noted that you could start a program that fostered black and Hispanics in elementary school and middle schools to develop the STEM skills and create a robust applicant pool for TJ[/b].  To which, some poster noted "separate but equal."  What the heck does that even mean?  There's really no data to support that tons of blacks + Hispanics would qualify under the 3.5 GPA or that enough of them would be interested in a STEM school like TJ.  [b]What would actually make a difference is to grow that pool of candidates[/b].  Right now, FCPS is planning on doing nothing but set a lottery to absolve themselves from actually doing the hard work of BUILDING the applicant pool of black+Hispanic candidates.  This is always the FCPS answer--do the least amount of work and call it "fixed."  [/quote]

That's why you seek diversity and representation at TJ, a STEM school.  [b]To foster black and Hispanics in high school to further develop their STEM skills and create a robust applicant pool for college and beyond.[/b]  What is actually going to make a difference is that this will grow the pool of candidates for STEM programs and careers after high school graduation.

See how that works?[/quote]

You clearly know nothing about developing STEM students if you think you do that when they get to high school.  And at the most competitive STEM high schools in the country.  You've lost the war!  You have just created a bunch of frustrated kids who will want nothing to do with STEM fields and will likely transfer back to their base school after a semester or two.  (This would happen to any student, irrespective of race.)  The difference here, the Asians start at a very young age to develop the STEM skills in their kids.  Test prepping aside, the primarily recipe for success with the Asian race--they start YOUNG!  And they foster a culture of deep rigor at home, and often times, that means lots of prepping--prepping for a test, prepping for a recital, whatever it is, they prep for it.  If you want to BUILD a STEM student, get to them in elementary school.  The love of science and math is not something one conjurs up in 9th grade.  It is a process.  If you don't start young, you will not be able to actually develop the STEM child.  If you don't develop the STEM child, the entire "lottery" plan will be an exercise in futility--you will likely yet again produce 6 kids of black+Hispanic background for yet another class.  [/quote]

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