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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]All because our leaders cannot weather the economic storm of a few months staying at home with distance learning and philosophically loath to support our most vulnerable (the elderly and the poor) during an economic downturn.[/quote]

I beg to differ.  It is so obvious that the benefits of the stay at home order at this point are so far outweighed by the incredible costs of the extension, for example:
- poor children and families - witness the food pantry shortages and lines and the fact that it will take YEARS for kids to catch up academically (if ever) to their peers
- children and vulnerable people in dysfunctional homes - witness the lack of child abuse referrals from schools (where often this abuse is identified)
[b]- people with other health needs while not emergencies, will suffer without treatment - imagine all the missed mammograms, screenings, biopsies, trips to ER avoided[/b]
- people with substance abuse and mental health issues who are not receiving support
[b]- all the hardworking small business owners, many of whom will see their life's work and dreams gone[/b]

If the hospitals/healthcare system is not overrun, we need to open back up so that those of us who are willing to take some reasonable risks - to get a haircut or go to a restaurant or send our children to daycare - can do so. 
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The two concerns I bolded are the two that don't make sense to me.

Healthcare has not been forced to close by the shutdown.  The reason fewer people are seeking ER treatment is not due to the shutdown, it's because people don't feel safe going.  If opening up increases the amount of virus, even more people will feel unsafe and not go.  The reason why doctors are canceling in person procedures is because they don't feel that they can do them safely.  They worry about patients becoming infected with covid, and they worry about other things due to lack of PPE.  Increasing the number of infections in the community will increase those problems.  This is a problem that will definitely become worse, not better, if we reopen in a matter that isn't safe.

As for small businesses, we know that small businesses in places that aren't shut down are hurting too.  We know that in places like Sweden, people are avoiding places, and businesses are still in jeopardy.  Allowing these businesses to open, when the actual business won't be there to bring in money, is just a ploy to get out of paying unemployment to people, and without unemployment people will be hurting worse. [/quote]

What?  No elective medical procedures were allowed from the time the shutdown order went into place until last week.[/quote]

Yes, PP about medical procedures. Where has the previous PP been tp not know that elective procedures, surgeries, etc. were not allowed to proceed until last week ( for MD).  [/quote]

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