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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Returning to the original question, I would not spend out of state tuition to send my kids for undergraduate studies at one of University of California schools (such as Berkeley or UCLA) due to terrible budget concerns and overcrowding that cause [b]kids to take 6 years to graduate, on average.    [/b][/quote]

I don’t understand this comment. [b]The four year grad rate at UCLA and Berkeley is 77% and 75% [/b]respectively. With the exception of UVA and W&M, that’s right on par with other top publics. [/quote]

yeah but 77% is Terrible.  UVa is like 94%. [/quote]
For large public universities it is good. UVA is 89%.

Going down the list of top 25 USNews public colleges:
UCLA - 77%
UCB - 75%
Michigan - 79%
UVA - 89%
Georgia Tech - 40% 
UNC - 82%
UCSB - 70%
University of Florida - 68%
UC Irvine - 68%
UC San Diego - 62%
UC Davis - 61%
William and Mary - 85%
Wisconsin - 62%
Illinois - 70%
Texas - 61%
Georgia - 66%
Ohio State - 59%
Florida State - 66%
Penn State - 66%
Purdue - 56%
Pitt - 65%
Rutgers - 61%
University of Washington - 67%
Umass - 71%
UMD - 70%
UConn - 73%

Now, if PP wanted to make the argument that she wouldn’t send her kid to large publics as a whole because their graduate rates tend to be lower than privates, that would be fair. But to single out the UC schools as having low graduation rates is an argument that does not hold water. It’s a large public school thing, not a UC school thing. [/quote]

This would lead you to believe that Georgia Tech is the worst and has the worst students.  I believe they now have the highest average SAT scores of all public universities, so perhaps we need to take into account degree of difficulty? [/quote]
It mainly has to do with the prevalence of engineering/STEM majors, I think, of which Georgia Tech is made up almost entirely.

My kid is an engineering major and it is super common for them to take 4 1/2 or 5 years to graduate as they frequently do co-ops that take them off campus for a semester or even a whole year. Also, the engineering courses at least at his school are very sequenced and so if you fail one that sets you back big time. Purdue is another school that is suuuper heavy on engineers so not surprising that they have a lower grad rate. [/quote]

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