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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My brother's a pulmonologist in CA treating COVID patients. He said in their general exprience, folks who need ventilators due to pneumonia caused by typical influenza or other common causes recover about 80% of the time. But with COVID, it's flipped, at they have seen 80% who need a ventilator end up dying. [/quote]

Does your brother have a theory?[/quote]

In general terms, "something" happens in some people that triggers an often fatal immune response. He doesn't seem to have theories about what, specifically. Which is what worries him. Initially based on early reporting, he was pretty laid back about this all. But as more stats are out and now he's seeing things first-hand, he's very concerned. Yes, many of those who die are "high risk." But then there are enough relatively young people without known issues who have this response, too and end up dying.[/quote]

Thank you. Do you think the medications they took at the beginning of the symptoms could have an impact? Some are known to interfere with the outcome. Do the doctors like your brother has time and resources to check what self medication the patients did. For instance things like Aspirin or Advil.. etc.. those are not good to take.. also cough suppressants? I just wonder if anyone looks into this case by case.[/quote]

I asked him about this because as a migraineur, I turn to ibuprofen and naproxen sodium regularly and was worried. He was not concerned about these medications at all--a lot of misinformation and panic led to the advice to avoid ibuprofen. He thinks that's tragic not only because it's not true re: COVID, but more people will take acetaminophen and end up with liver failure. When I asked if I should avoid ibuprofen or naproxen sodium because of COVID, he said no.

He's not a fan pretty much ever of cough suppressants. 
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