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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The Cathedral Commons complex is definitely not in Cleveland Park, which is an historic district and starts on the other wise of Wisconsin Ave.  Historic protections and zoning restrictions would have precluded a complex of that height and size and would have required extensive architectural review.[/quote]

The project took 15 years of red tape and neighborhood pushback including an attempt to landmark what had been there. There is nothing about being in a historic district which would have prevented Cathedral Commons. Look no further than the 14th Street corridor for what is allowed in historic districts.[/quote]

The reason that it took so long is that Royal Ahol, Giant’s parent that was already reeling from securities fraud charges at the time, breached a 2002 agreement with the city and neighborhood groups to build a new store.  [/quote]

You ignore the original proposal that the neighborhood fought, was in 1999. The store could have been finished in 2001 without the ridiculous arguments that delayed a very modest redevelopment plan.[/quote]

We wish that the store had been renovated in 1999 only because then at least we wouldn’t have that piece of architectural dreck pretentiously called “Cathedral Commons.”  They even use a knockoff Chanel logo in their marketing. :lol: [/quote]

I like Cathedral Commons. I have toured the building. The apartments are attractive. I am not sure why you feel it is dreck. It fits in well with the surrounds.[/quote]

In the area, Park Van Ness and the Woodley are newer buildings with impressive architectural detail.  The City Ridge development also will be well done.  By contrast, CC looks like an airport hotel.  [/quote]

Hmmm, I haven't seen that. I don't think CC is hideous though. And I like how they preserved the 'curve' from the old Suntrust bank as well as very wide sidewalks. The interior apartments are very airy/light and will age well. Also a good communal space. It's not the very worst I've seen. I am curious about these other buildings though. Anything that copies the Kennedy Warren is on the right track. Sounds like there has been a ton of development...[b]why is the density crowd not sated[/b]???[/quote]

Ummm because DC is not very dense and Ward 3 has actually had very little development by DC or even regional standards over the last 30 years.

And there is that whole thing where our planet is roasting and maybe we need to make better land use and energy consumption decisions?[/quote]

Please.  There are 1500 new housing units rising on just two blocks of Wisconsin alone.  There have been a number of buildings added along Wisconsin Ave, as well as in Chevy Chase/Friendship Heights, Tenleytown, and Woodley.  There’s a large development slated for the heart of AU Park.  The “smart growther” Arent satiated because they’re basically the echo chamber for real estate developers and speculators who are not satiated.  And they especially want windfall profit opportunities they would result from upzoning in Ward 3.  As for “climate change,” go ask developers if they are willing to covenant that buyers and tenants will be ineligible for street RPP permits for their cars.  They’ll look at you like you’re crazy.  [/quote]

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