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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know quite a few service academy grads and I think of them as hard-working, goal-oriented, self-disciplined, athletic doers who generally have their acts together, but I don't necessarily find them particularly smart, creative, or innovative as a whole.  Bright enough for sure, and nothing to look down on, but if they didn't go to the academies, most of them wouldn't have gone to a top academic university or college.  I mean, does Mike Pompeo really strike anyone as the sharpest tool in the shed? Or Roy Moore? Or Oliver North? So academically, I don't think they are that prestigious; their prestige comes from other qualities.  It's really apples and oranges.  [/quote]

I have also worked with one, and noticed that the guy could work in a pressure cooker, but did not stand out as very smart. The guy was very friendly and pleasant to work with.

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Agree. They aren't smart but they're very patriotic and mission-driven. Since most corporations were built on a military model of chain of command leadership ... military guys can do well in corporations. That just means they know how to follow orders and buckle down ... not that they have high IQs or anything. Your examples are good. Pompeo seems as dumb as a brick and so did North.

OP .. they are not "prestigious" ... that is the wrong word choice.[/quote]

Around here, the academy grads I know did their 20+ years in the military, had grad school paid for (one of DH's best friends went to Harvard's Kennedy School), and now work for management consulting companies, drawing a big salary on top of their officer's pension.  Makes for a nice life.[/quote]

Is a 20 year military pension a decent chunk of change annually -- it also includes free VA health care for life? Does the 20 years to earn a pension start at age 18yo when you get on campus or not until you graduate at 22yo? What's the minimum required to serve after graduating from West Point? Do you still get a small pension if you only serve for the minimum?[/quote]
Fee VA health care for life!!
That is scary
VA health care has had so many scandals

Rather move to Canada and get free health care for life[/quote]

My sister lives on the American side of the border very close to the Canadian border.  Many Canadians come to America for their healthcare.  There are large bill boards for the local American hospital as you drive over the border.  Come see us for your elective surgeries.  We can get them scheduled.  Knee replacement Canada--2 year wait or more. Knee replacement US 30 days to get all your bloodwork etc.  Canadians even come over the border for the American Vets.  Virtually no Americans driver across the border to Canada for health care.  There is a significant percentage of Canadians that cross the border for US health care.  You get doctro choice (rather than assigned to a specialist as in Canada and you get in faster, many times years faster).[/quote]

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