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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think that we as a society need to finally recognize that it's a zero sum game. We can't just sing lalala and pretend to be one big happy family. The fact is that inclusion is often detrimental to the other kids, especially when we're talking about behavioral issues. Therefore, in trying to "help" some kids by IGNORING the effect of their disruptions and continuing to offer them the "normal" educational system, we are literally HURTING the other kids. If we can admit that to ourselves and each other, then we can start asking the questions of HOW MUCH of a detriment is reasonable, if any at all.[/quote]

Majority of kids with SN are not violent or disruptive or at least no more than your kids.  There are a handful and those kids deserve more supports and better school situations but its near impossible for many families to access and those schools are not affordable for most.  Instead of blaming the kid and families, look at the school system.  Look at how much most of the major school systems like MCPS spend fighting  families with attorney fees alone when that money could be spent on the kids.  These kids don't want to act this way and need help.  As a society we are failing these kids and we owe it to them and our society as they are are our future to do better for them.[/quote]

"Behavioral issues" by definition means disruption, if not violence. If your child is SN in a way that really has no bearing on the rest of the class (e.g. speech issues or a dyslexia pullout once a week) then this is not relevant to you.

Nobody is arguing that these kids don't need more support than they're getting. What we're saying is that the level of support i[b]s not possible in the public school system[/b] without negatively affecting the other students. Clearing a room might be perfectly appropriate in a special school for kids with behavioral issues, but it is NOT appropriate in a public school setting unless in the case of a bomb threat or similar. A mainstreamed child should not be the equivalent of a bomb threat on the safety and wellbeing of other children.[/quote]

There isn't enough capacity in private special ed schools for all the students who need seats, not by a long shot. My friend's ds was approved for a school by FCPS last year after he repeatedly ran away from school but there was no space in any of the few schools for him--he waited almost a full school year in a public school that was the wrong school for him because there was nowhere else for him to go.  Also, these schools cost the school system $60-$90k per student per year.  Everyone has to be willing to pay more taxes to support schools to pay for this. The last time Fairfax tried to raise more money for schools through a meal sales tax, they lost. [/quote]

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