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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Yes, CCDC is suburban, zero difference from CCMD or Bethesda. [/b]I assume it's not the same suburban experience as someone in Great Falls or Clarksburg or Loudon, but it's definitely urban living. Cmon, OP, you can't really be surprised by this.[/quote]

CCDC is more gridlike and has more sidewalks.  I’m sure there are other differences, but those are the ones I’ve noticed.[/quote]

Having sidewalks and grid like streets is not going to make it urban. For it to be urban it has to have a higher density of commercial within shorter walking distance and higher density of housing, which is only present around metro stations. For me also, there is another factor: car accessibility.   Urban areas are not car oriented even if not high density, businesses/commercial don't offer customer parking, street parking is a PITA, everything is scaled toward walking and PT.  Suburban areas have way more parking lots, most commercial places offer customer parking if at least a few spots, it's easier to park and drive vs. take PT or walk.   [/quote]

Well then Upper NW DC is way more urban than suburban relative to most of Bethesda.

Virtually everyone in Upper NW is withing walking distance of a one seat public transit ride to downtown.  I get that some of those people wouldn't be caught dead on a public bus but the fact is that many wealthy NWDC residents do take the bus every day to jobs downtown.

Also most of NW DC is in fact within walking distance of retail areas too.

And most of NW DC has sidewalks and a typical street grid.

And believe it or not most of the commercial corridors also have some pretty high density buildings along them too and in fact to refute the previous comment quite a bit of the residential density in NW DC is not in fact near Metrorail stations.

There are lots of opinions on what makes something suburban vs urban.  Some people think it is purely a density thing.  Some think it has to do with walkability and transit access.  Sadly some people think it is a racial measure.

But by most of the measures NW DC has to different degrees most of the elements that make a place urban while most of the elements don't exist once you cross Western.[/quote]

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