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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You’ve got all the data right in front of you. She’s bright but no genius. [/quote]

Disagree.  OP doesn't have much data in front of her, since neither the CogAT nor NNAT are strongly correlated to IQ and neither test is very comprehensive.   It's possible that OP's DD is a genius who is somewhat underachieving and coasting in classes too easy for her.  A real IQ test would be the best way to determine just how bright OP's DD is.  [/quote]

I disagree with you. Op has loads of data. She’s taken tests and she’s been in school for what, 10 years now? Op, herself, says this kid is bright but not remarkable. [b]Has she taken the SAT? Surely she has. A genius would score above a 1400 in 7th grade at the very least.[/b]  Getting a high IQ now isn’t going to make her a genius overnight. [/quote]

No she hasn’t taken the SAT. She is in 9th grade. Why would you think she has taken the SAT already? [/quote]

[b]Because that’s what gifted kids do.[/b] [/quote]

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I took it in maybe 5th or 6th. The schools were looking for the geniuses among the regular gifted kids. The one-in-a- million brains.[/b]
What the heck do you mean “that’s what gifted kids do?”  What school gives kids the SAT before high school? [/quote][/quote]

Well then how do they know which kids to give the SAT to in 7th grade, because most kids are initially tested years before.  Are they simply choosing the kids that scored in the 99th percentile in 2-3rd grade during the initial gifted screening?   That would be ridiculous because scores at that age are seen as less reliable as opposed to scores taken at a later age.  I don't think many gifted programs are giving kids a second round of Cogat and Nalieri tests in middle school.[/quote]

[b]The point is this: by 9th grade kids have plenty of opportunity to show genius. [/b]I don’t think OP’s kid is lacking for opportunity. She’s in a gifted program for crying out loud. That her own parent doesn’t see her as remarkable or anything more than bright is more telling than one weak, non-verbal screener. [/quote]

Other than making all A's, being in advanced classes, and scoring extremely high on the standardized tests given prior to 9th grade, how many other ways are there really to "show genius" prior to 9th grade?  Especially if the kid is not from an UMC family that might have more opportunities to develop it? [/quote]

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