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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP can you explain, in words, what is "sloppy" and "incompetent" about all this? Either Trump tried to leverage the official power of the U.S. government for personal gain in an election, or he did not.  It doesn't even have to be technically bribery. I'm a federal employee, and if I even tried to buy stock in one of my regulated entities, I could be fired or put in jail.  It's basic government ethics.  [/quote]

It's definitely not bribery.

It's incompetent because every functional administration has a prepared script when talking with foreign leaders. The staff runs the call with the President adding talking points. This clown puts Ivanka on the calls routinely. It's sloppy because every administration users, to some degree, foreign policy interaction for domestic political gain. You don't do it on a call with dozens listening.

It's not really that material because there was no real damage. Ukraine received the aid, nobody was investigated. The Hunter Biden board membership was obviously inappropriate, so it's certainly topical.

This isn't the worst thing Trump's done this year.  The Turkey/Kurds thing was easily 1000x worse. Calling Baltimore names was worse. Insulting allies was worse.

This is inappropriate, but it's not bribery obviously and it's not a high crime.[/quote]

It is textbook bribery, which includes the "solicitation" or the ask. It need not be executed in order for it to be a crime.[/quote]

And it's bribery because it was done for Trumps ***personal*** benefit -- not "domestic political gain" for the country.  Yes, trading things with foreign countries to gain advantages for the US is normal politics and not bribery. Using US foreign aid to as a way to extract PERSONAL political benefit is bribery and conflict of interest.  Trump did it on a call with dozens listening because he's impulsive and corrupt as hell, and has been getting away with this stuff his whole life.  "Damage" is not an element of bribery and conflict of interest, but good try!  
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