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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]IMO, the best ranking happens when you combine a lot of different rankings (focusing only on the top 50 on WSJ)

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So for top 10 universities, we have HYPMS, Caltech, UPenn, Duke, Brown, and Columbia. Only really missing UChicago, but they explicitly play to the US News rankings and thus might be a little overrated.
For top 5 LACs, we have Pomona, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, and Bowdoin. Almost no one would disagree with these 5, though the order might shift around.  
For top 5 public Us, we have Berkeley, UCLA, U of M, UVA, and UNC Chapel Hill. Again, [b]that exact order is pretty much how undergrad reputation for public universities go[/b].

It's interesting to see how different rankings vary. WSJ does seem to favor public universities. [/quote]

Instead of 1 crap in, 1 crap out, u get more crap in, more crap out. [/quote]

I've lived near Berkeley and UCLA.  I know they are really good schools overall (particularly Berkeley), but I can't say I have a great view on their undergraduate education.  It seems like undergraduates are often the afterthought compared to research and graduate students.[/quote]

If you want no advising, difficulty getting required classes, teaching assistant that are difficult to understand, and faculty who are entirely motivated by research and publishing, and the option of only living on campus for one year, they make great choices.[/quote]
On the flip side, if your kid was actually a star student, they wouldn't need that type of hand-holding. To them, doing well in an undergraduate curriculum is just an after-thought, and the material is basically the same between almost all schools which are easily accessible knowledge to the layman. 
The main goal of a star student would be to interact with graduate students and professors to get up to date with the most modern research and knowledge that literally can't be found anywhere else.[/quote]

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