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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yeah, I don't know these types of people. I know that #winemoms is a thing, but I also know that alcoholism among 30 and 40 year old women has been increasing because of this "let's drink wine to escape from our lives" culture.  Get hobbies, ladies.[/quote]

This. It's not a good look, and not just for women. It's just a newer thing for women to do openly. And yes, it's unfair to criticize them MORE than criticizing men-- but drinking as much and as openly as men is a rare example of equality being a bad thing.

I say this as someone who has about 4-5 (actual, standard) drinks per week, so not at all a teetotaler.

But I did go through a couple of years drinking way too much after my kid was born because 1) I was somewhat bored/anxious, but moreso 2) it was becoming more socially acceptable to drink 1-2 drinks every night, mimosa brunch, wine at a playdate (yes, most of my friends were white), etc. and that led to 3) "a (wo)man takes a drink, the drink takes a drink." You drink every day, and you start to become dependent, and it starts to creep up into 2 drinks a day, maybe even 3, and the size of the wine glasses or the beer ABV increases, etc., etc. Because that's just how it works. I was at no point non-functional, but it was still WAY too much.

This OBVIOUSLY does not apply to everyone! And good for you if it doesn't. Only a (significant) minority of even people who would post about #momosas get to that point. I mean-- seriously, have a glass of champagne when you drop your kid off at school... if that's all it really is for you.

It's just that... I went to a school-related meeting at someone's house after I cut way back on my drinking. All moms. 7 of us. I thought to myself, I'm going to pass on that proffered pitcher of sangria, because I don't want drinking to be an everyday thing anymore, and it's a Tuesday. Because I wasn't drinking, and it was a little tough for me, I was much more aware at how much everyone else was drinking and... it was a lot. Not just sangria, but beer came out, so I could tell how much everyone was drinking, and it was 2-5 standard alcoholic drinks for everyone there. On a Tuesday.

And sure, maybe that's only a very occasional thing for absolutely all of them, but... I kind of doubt it. Not all of them. And even if it is, I'm not sure how good a look (or even just a personal plan) it is to go to a class moms meeting and have 4 beers. On a Tuesday.

I think it's a bit like anything else that can be addictive and that a large swath of people are in denial about. Like screen time. I think a LOT of people are honestly able to set some sort of limit for their kids, like 1 or 2 hours a day (or even set no limit, but that's how much their kids use screens), and it works just fine for them, never creeps up, and is not a problem. That's awesome! And I'm sure that group is quite large!

But I think a significant number of people say that, say they are all about "moderation"... but are in denial. Because moderation is not based on objective reality, it's based on your peer group. So if your peer group is drinking at the drop of every hat...  [/quote]

It sounds like you have borderline alcoholic tendencies. Realize that not everyone is wired like you.

Counting and observing and noting and judging what others are consuming, by the way? Is a borderline alcoholic tendency. Normal people don't count other people's drinks, unless they literally are becoming sloppy drunk.

You...do also realize that alcohol has the exact same effect on a human body any day of the week, right? So it...honestly doesn't matter that much if it is OMG ON A TUESDAY. A TUESDAY. A TUESSSSSDDAAAAAYYYY! [/quote]

I thought that post was odd too.  Unless someone is like, pounding vodka alone or puking on the table, I'm totally not noticing how much any particular person is drinking, whether I am or not.[/quote]

Uhhhhh I thought it was clear that I DO have borderline alcoholic tendencies. I didn't really notice until all the beer bottles were lined up, but yes, eventually, I noticed. And of course not everyone is wired like me. Not even the majority. But a lot of people are, and a lot of those people are in denial.

Eh, I offered about a billion disclaimers about how this isn't everyone, just maybe worth noting, considering the objective statistical evidence that this is an increasing problem... but hey, it's DCUM. Definitely the fact that I used the word "Tuesday" repeatedly means that I clutch my pearls about any refined lady having anything but the merest sip of a hot toddy at the Flegelmanns' Annual Christmas Party.

Drinking on a Tuesday! Slatterns! Lushes!

Indeed, you nailed it. Well done.[/quote]

Just so you know, there's nothing "borderline" about your drinking tendencies. Get help.[/quote]

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