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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You can see this with housing. Tearing down single-family homes and replacing them with luxury condos is reducing the available stock of homes for people with children. It's basically saying we cater to childless adults. [/quote]

You mean the popups, which typically involved a 3 BR TH going to two or three 2 BR condos?

Well, yeah - if we built more midrise/hirise condos, enough supply to lower the price for condos, there would be less incentive to do those kinds of flips.  They would still become luxury though - old unrenovated 3BR houses are going to become renovated luxury 3BR houses. [b]Only real way to make housing for families affordable close to a desired central city is to get (even UMC) families used to living in condos/apts, as they do in NYC.[/b] [/quote]
Oh, yes, nothing conjures the notion of "affordable for families" quite like NYC condos and apartments.

You cannot be for real. [/quote]

Hmmm?   There are only so many acres in DC. There is a maximum limit to how many people can live in THs and detached SFHs in DC.  No room for more.  Unless you move  most of the jobs out of DC, or get most people to prefer long commutes to living in DC,  there is no way to make it possible for most people who want detached SFHs (or even THs) to be able to afford them (though building enough apts to get the singles living as roommates out of the houses would help)

So again, the only way to make it possible for  families with kids to be a much larger share of people who live in DC, is to change the culture so that raising a kid in an apt is more acceptable. I doubt that would lead to apt rents as high as in NYC, because DC is a smaller employment center than NYC - I mentioned NYC only to indicate a place where middle class people do not feel "poor" because they raise a kid in an apt or condo.[/quote]

"Change the culture so that raising a kid in an apt is more acceptable"? Are you for real? You obviously don't have children or you would know how utterly ridiculous that sounds. Also, why are people even talking about NYC? There are no children in NYC. Everybody leaves when they have kids because kids need space and there is no space in NYC. [/quote]

This is simply not true, I am raising kids in NYC, so do many others. NYC is very dense, there is simply no other option other than apartment living unless you move way far out to deeply residential parts of outer boroughs where there is supply of SFHs, or somewhat residential with TH living, the rest is apartment living through and through unless you have many millions to spend on a rowhouse. Even rich live in apartments, it's just a different culture.  Rich who want a spacious SFH with land move to the burbs, which in NYC are way further out than in DC metro due to density. The other factor contributing to keeping families in NYC is the fact that job market is Manhattan centric with only some employment in outer boroughs, very limited, there are not other sizable job centers outside of Manhattan DT, Midtown and Jersey city.  All of this makes outer boroughs not as desirable outside of certain closer-in trendier parts, so keeps prices there relatively low and affordable.  It is different from DC metro which has Tysons, Reston and MD job centers in addition to DC DT, which isn't the only place people commute to, plus you don't have to go far at all to get a detached SFH, TH is even easier, you can get this without selling your organs and your firstborn in the city proper. To force DC families to cram into apartments while supply of THs in the close-iin trendy areas and SFHs nearby is so abundant is foolish unless population explodes. Some may live in apartments, usually foreigners and former NYers who are used to it, or younger families with babies/toddles.  It's the case in most cities.  Bay Area is another example where more families would live in the city, but it's very very residential compared to NY, you do have tons of TH living, garages galore, the only thing keeping families from staying is more difficult school situation and insane prices in SF burbs and SV due to the fact that job market there is also not DT centric like DC, there are employment centers in the burbs, so people can have their SFHs and live relatively near to jobs given they can pay through the nose.  In order to force people in the US to raise families in apartments you need density, which only exists in NYC and city centric jobs which make commutes from residential parts very painful. [/quote]

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