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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel bad for the manager on a recent thread who leads a technical org of 50 people and made $200k. He had a new job that would have required frequent travel to India which barely bumped him to $300k. Makes me wonder how many people my company are dramatically underpaid.[/quote] Huh? I know many people who manage lots of people and travel frequently and don't make anywhere near $200 or 300K. My husband is a fed in a technical field and overseas several thousand employees and travels frequently. He has many similar colleagues, in and out of government. [/quote] in tech, as in any field, there is great, good, mediocre, and bad talent. there are a lot of mediocre software developers who write awful code and could never architect. the bad ones basically lie about knowing how to write software. if you are "great" (top 10%?) then your entry level salary is $125k in any major urban market. "good" (next 20%?) then closer to $80k. both of these should double within 5 years as you become a highly productive IC. that's for 40 hours of IC work with no travel and no management responsibilities. now add in management of a small team of direct reports. to entice developers to take this on there is typically a 30% bump in comp. now you're at $325k for great and $208k for good. now bump yourself up a couple levels such that you have layered reports and are leading a technical org of 50 people. what comp is needed to offset that extra stress? at my company you'd be double the last comp figures, at a minimum, if you were terrible at negotiating. if you held this job at a startup or other company whose fortunes were less certain then you'd offset that risk by asking for more equity comp to offset the downside risk. again, i'm describing real software developers who are technically proficient and can architect, implement, and scale production software. not the many bozos who claim to be technical because they worked an IT help desk call center or learned how to script in php or python. if you really know any ex-software developers who are technically great, experienced managers, and OK with frequent travel, and make substantially less than the numbers above, encourage them to get on LinkedIn and start connecting with internal recruiters and headhunters. they will thank you. [/quote]
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