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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Netherlands is the European Champions.  Europe has great teams and players (France, England, Sweden, etc.). So being a European Champion is a great feat for the Netherlands Women’s National Team and shows that they are the best of the European Teams.

But..........the USWNT is the WC Champions!

Everyone has a great plan until they get punched in the nose. [/quote]

Sigh. My point all along has been that winning this year could ironically be bad for the future. I can't argue with people who can't argue[/quote]

The US just beat Sweden, Spain, France, England, and the Netherlands. That is the only argument needed for now. As far as the future goes ... who gives a crap yet. Enjoy the moment now. We can worry about the future tomorrow. Sure, the Euros are catching up, which was to be expected. Good for them. The more competition the better. [/quote]

You’re not listening so just stop commenting. [/quote]

Parents- here is an excellent, on point analysis of what happened in the game, ending in a prediction similar to many of those offered in this thread. This is how coaches saw the game:
https://spielverlagerung.com/2019/07/07/usa-win-4th-womens-world-cup/?doing_wp_cron=1562582936.6201078891754150390625[/quote]

No, [i]you're[/i] not listening to counter opinions. You think you know it all, but you are missing the forest for the trees. So let me present a better argument. I took a look at the linked article.  It is an overly analyzed synopsis on an old tactic: when outmanned against a superior opponent, drop back and play a lot of conservative D and try to get lucky on a counter attack goal. It is how the 1994 US team beat Columbia in the men's WC.  It is also how Italy beat Germany in the 1982 men's final. Another analogy is how the NY Knicks had decent success in the early to mid 90's by playing "bully-slow down" ball. This is not some "revolution" in sports, it is old hat. History shows that 9 times out of 10 the team with better talent will win unless that team is totally incoherent.  Every once in a while David does beat Goliath, but it is rare.  The USWNT is [b]not[/b] incoherent and won't be in the future. The USWNT is very competent.  Yes, the Euro teams play a more attractive brand of one-and-two touch soccer with better off ball movement at times than the US.  But the US still wins. They are simply better individually and have strong chemistry as a team. Now … let's see how the talent develops over the next four years. I agree that Euros will get better individually as well, but we'll see how much close the gap. The scary thing for the Euros is that the US in aware now and will adjust to that impending threat, both individually and as a program. Lavelle and others will go and play in Europe (just as Horan and Morgan did) and learn from their systems too, just as the Euros came and played in US College systems. There will be a blending of styles which will level the playing field. This will eventually lead back to the old sports adage, "speed and athleticism kills." It will be the only differentiator between the US and top Euro countries who will ALL play the same style in 4 years. When it comes to that adage, my money is on the US due to our demographics and economy.  Side note: this is also why USMNT will always struggle: the Euro teams are faster, better athletes than the USMNT and will be as long as US top athletes choose to play other, higher paying, and higher profile US pro sports.  To sum up, "the more things change, the more they stay the same."[/quote]

Thank you for a cogent response that is on topic. In my mind, there is a heaven/ hell scenario. As you indicate, the game constantly evolves. One need look no further than Germany's ignominious defeat in the last WC to validate that. In the same vein, Italy's catanaccio bit the dust etc. If US Soccer has the insight to say "Ok, the gap is closing, we may have escaped a bit in 2019, how can we get better?" That will be the proper response and will yield growth. However, I am pretty familiar with the US methodology,  and I think their attitude will be "See, we know what we are doing!"  And continue with their mindless rules ( no rondos ever etc) in coaching courses. [b]Given past experience, I am betting on hell[/b]. [/quote]

When you look back at 2015 and the progress and improvement shown from the 2015 WC to the 2019 WC, why do you bet on hell?[/quote]
I don't necessarily see improvement. Yes, the prelims were lackluster in the last WC, and we probably should have lost to Australia, but the final.was a demolition. Also, other nations,  such as the Dutch, didn't have their act together and now they are up and running. You could, of course, make the case that other teams have fallen off since, and that would be valid, but I think there are several Euro nations that are here to say and maybe even some South American ones too. I didn't think Chile was horrible, for example. I don't see the quality of player , other than Rose, that I used to see. It is too robotic for me. In fact, as I said, I think Pugh has gone backwards. I just feel that the US doesn't encourage creativity, and it will haunt us. That said, the women did win again, and the men looked good ina losing effort against a better team last night [/quote]

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