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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP’s thread title is completely misleading.

But that sort of intentional distortion is increasingly common among democrats these days.

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Not only misleading, but it draws a totally false equivalency.  Comparing immigration in the US to Japan?  Please.

I can say, without a doubt, that the vast majority of conservatives are all for legal immigration.

It's the ILLEGAL entry that's at issue here.  [/quote]

You're failing to see the point.  The point is: the research shows NOT that we have an emergency with illegal entry; but rather a mismatch with our legalization of immigration and our current and future labor needs (especially low-skill) in light of our demographics.   The rational policy response to to focus on creating legal immigration routes.  Yet, your side focuses on demonizing illegal immigrants rhetorically, and treating them brutally.  It is not a rational policy response ... unless you're more interested in stirring up animus towards illegal immigrants.

The BEST policy platform for immigration is:  reform to provide us with the legal migrants we need, and treat everyone humanely.

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Have you ever thought that maybe - just perhaps - if we were able to enforce our borders and curb illegal immigration to a mere trickle, that we could then go about reforming our immigration laws to allow more unskilled workers to secure work permits?

Nobody even wants to think about doing this when we have millions - yes, millions - of unskilled workers living freely, but illegally, in our country.  [/quote]

No, I think that immigration reform has to come first or at the same time. As it is, the Trump administration is expending tremendous resources and political capital on things like tearing babies away from mothers, while not working on immigration reform, and taking away resources from things like actually pursuing drug and human traffickers at the border (which everyone can agree is important).  A practical approach would likely recognize that trying to deport everyone that we have here now would be tremendously costly, so that would have to factor in.

If your overriding focus is "ILLEGALS ARE BAD!!"  then that gets in the way of thinking rationally about policy.  [/quote]

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