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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If grades are awesome and the scores are brilliant, then the only reason has to be the SIS or the recs. Perhaps the recommendations aren’t as excellent as you think, or the child didn’t actually  want to go and that was reflected in the SIS[/quote]

+1.  The three test scores are only part of it! Grades,  SIS, teacher recs are considered in addition.  Those of you posting three test scores are missing the point.

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The point is that most weight is given to subjective scoring of essays/SIS. It is certainly not choosing
The top stem candidates [/quote]

TJ no longer seems to be a STEM school at this point.  I think this is good and bad but it looks like they are more about creating a well balanced instead of kids who are interested in STEM which I thought was a prerequisite since it is a STEM school

One possible strategy is  that they take semi finalists off of test scores but then for who gets in it's much more subjective which might be how they are weeding out the cookie cutter hard core STEM folks but again why call it a STEM school if you aren't taking people actually interest in STEM[/quote]

Go and actually read TJ’s mission statement. It’s a much richer curriculum than just STEM.  They do a lot of group projects.  Put an emphasis on fine arts and language, and require the rigorous blocked humanities.  Discuss and debate and do so f——g many PowerPoint presentations your head would spin.  There is a lot more going on than who is the best mathbot.  And more tears shed in many houses about APUSH  than Math.  Whether they are interested or not, no one gets out of TJ without the equivalent of 7 STEM APs: CS, Calc, Stats, Bio, Chem, Physics I and Geoscience (with the TJ intro science classes being taught from the AP books at the intro level. And a physics and geosciences curriculum they train other schools from around the work on). Plus design tech. Plus a year long senior research project.  Bare minimum for every single kid. So yes— it’s a STEM school.  But, it’s not just a STEM school. [/quote]

+100

Also, a child who has of his or her own initiative, found ways to merge STEM with the arts or music is IMHO a much better STEM candidate than a child who’s just done a lot of resume-ready parent-driven STEM activities, e.g. Science Olympiad ( which let’s face it, is usually a lot of memorization without solid foundational grounding unless it is a lab event. Re build events - there are too many build events which are ‘helped/done’ by the parent), or even Science Fair ( most students seem to openly take stuff off Science Buddies or similar sites/sources).  These activities do less to prepare a child for STEM than a self driven pursuit. See this re Science Fairs https://qz.com/367007/science-fairs-arent-actually-preparing-your-kids-to-do-anything/[/quote]

You can always guess the race of a poster who uses words like: "best mathbot".

And another poster expresses so much venom in her comments that even a rattle snake and king cobra will feel ashamed - "a child who’s just done a lot of resume-ready parent-driven STEM activities, e.g. Science Olympiad ( which let’s face it, is usually a lot of memorization without solid foundational grounding unless it is a lab event. Re build events - there are too many build events which are ‘helped/done’ by the parent), or even Science Fair ( most students seem to openly take stuff off Science Buddies or similar sites/sources).  These activities do less to prepare a child for STEM".  This poster thinks kids who passionately followed STEM related activities are robots being programmed and controlled by their parents.

This poster, on the other hand says, "a child who has of his or her own initiative, found ways to merge STEM with the arts or music is IMHO a much better STEM candidate".  As per this poster, unless a child combines her/his STEM interest with arts or music, that child is parent-driven robot.

IMHO - my foot.  there is no HUMBLE in this poster's spewing of venom.
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