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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]I'm surprised by all of the answers on this thread. The manager did nothing wrong, the employee handled the situation badly.

Personally, I wouldn't say anything, but I probably wouldn't be in a hurry to push the employees case again any time soon.

The employee lost an ally in you.[/quote]
+1[/quote]

Well what would you advise an employee who just gets told over and over that they aren’t getting a raise? It’s been 5 years for me.

I went over my boss’s head and easily got a raise. I was going to leave if that hadn’t worked. [/quote]

I would not have waited 5 years.  I know it sounds easy for me to say but it is true.  I would not have waited 5 years.[/quote]

Ok but would you go over your bosss head?[/quote]

Nope.  The employee got an answer she didn't like and decided to go to Dad instead hoping for a different answer than Mom's.  Dad in this case reinforced Mom's answer.

I would not have gone to Dad.  I would either step up and do what Mom told me to do in order to get reevaluated in 6 months or I would leave, realizing the promotion wasn't going to happen.[/quote]

Here's the thing, though - if you thought one of your two options was leaving anyway, then what's the harm in trying with your boss's boss? You've got one foot out the door at that point as it is - so do you really care at that point if your boss is annoyed?

Also JFC any man who did this would be commended for advocating for himself. The low key sexism here is astounding. This isn't a group of mean girl friends trying to keep the queen bee happy. This is a worker trying to get paid what she believes she is worth.[/quote]

Male boss here:  I disagree with this entirely too.  I'd actually be inclined to cut a female employee a little more slack on this sort of issue, on the grounds that I might not fully understand where she was coming from or why she felt the need to do it. With a male employee, I'd be much more confident that I understand precisely what he is trying to do, and I would respond much more negatively.   I can't speak to how female managers would react, but, almost  to a person, a male boss would view a male employee who pulled this kind of stunt to be a disloyal a-hole.  Nobody sits around commending stuff like that.   [/quote]

I think the disloyal a-hole is the boss who just strings someone along, saying they value them and that in theory they'd promote them, but that it's not going to happen. And then not specifying exactly what those reasons are.

It's a totally different thing if OP didn't think the person deserves the promotion, but that doesn't seem to be the case here.

If I know I deserved a promotion, and my boss basically agreed with me, but then my boss said that she had chatted with big boss and decided not to grant the promotion but maybe consider it in half a year, you can bet I'd be looking elsewhere. And before I left the company, I may as well try a last ditch effort to find out directly from the horse what the issue is (maybe the feedback would be helpful in another role) and whether I can improve my chances if there was actually just some sort of misunderstanding. Especially if a promotion means I'd no longer be directly under my current boss anyway.[/quote]

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