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One can see you know nothing about Islamic History.  North Africa, Egypt, Syria etc were Christian for six hundred years before Islam existed.  Beginning during the Prophet Muhammad's lifetime with raids on caravans and then on the Quraysh tribe in Mecca itself, after his death the Rashidun Caliphs waged jihad in every direction.

Between roughly 630 and 750AD, two-thirds of formerly Christian lands were conquered by Islam.

AFTER 450 years of occupation, dhimmitude, and not a few atrocities, desperate church leaders in those conquered places petitioned the Pope to send help.  Help in the form of a largely penitential exercise, staffed in some cases by people who were already vastly wealthy, with no intent to forcibly convert Muslims to Christianity [to deal with three of the most common apologist lies]

[b]In other words, the Crusades, which failed miserably, were *defensive* in nature,[/b] responding to 450 years of Muslim conquest and occupation of formerly Christian lands.

lay-accessible source   Early Muslim Conquests on Wiki.

Scholarly reference:  Fred Donner, Early Islamic Conquests, Princeton University Press, c 1981.

Not to mention al-Tabari's History of Prophets and Kings, and half a thousand other scholarly sources, most of which, unfortunately, repeat the relatively recent lie about what the Crusade was and why it happened.[/quote]

The Crusades were "defensive in nature?"   :roll:  Sorry, I just cant.[/quote]

Fixed it for you:   Sorry, I just can't [b]make an evidence-based argument.[/b]

Are you saying Islam didn't [i]conquer[/i] and dhimmify two-thirds of Christendom [i]400+ years[/i] before the First Crusade?

You're entitled to be a raving apologist.   You're not entitled to invent your own facts (or in this case, ignore facts that are beyond informed dispute.)[/quote]

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