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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Context matters, I'm sure. Do you know much about the bible? A list of random quotes doesn't tell anyone much, one way or the other. Also, about that bee in your bonnet.[b] Some threads, like this one are inviting conversation on a topic to explore various sides of it[/b]. The thread that appears to have triggered you was the equivalent of someone saying "Happy Birthday" and you arguing about whether or not it was really happy, and why should it be, and how do we even know you were really born on this day no matter what the birth certificate says, and so on. Some things aren't asking for discussion and debate, like common holiday exclamations and traditional phrases like "happy birthday," "allelujah, he is risen," "merry christmas," "mazel tov," etc. They aren't arguments.[/quote] I suspect OP is reacting to the many times when Christians told non-believers not to participate their discussions. OP clearly stated "this thread is for people who believe the bible to be an immoral book." Yet it seems CHristians feel a need to defend their book, knowing their opinion is not wanted. How does it feel to have your point of view discounted in a public discussion group? [/quote] Where are the Christians defending their book? [/quote] They aren't engaging with you and your nonsense (aside from me because I cannot help myself). Trying to talk sense to someone like you is like trying to talk sense to a Trumpster. It cannot be done. I see you've started two topics tonight. Maybe you should ask Jeff to let you have your own forum? God bless you, PP. [/quote] Now its not enough for us to have our own threads, we need to have our own forum? You can't just not click on the threads that are not for you? What do you fear from us?[/quote] I fear nothing from you but think you should ask for your own forum so you can speak amongst people who agree with you. All you do is incite arguments and it seems all you want is people who agree with you. Hence the recommendation to ask for your own forum here.[/quote] Discussions of religion don't belong in the religion forum? The thread is clearly titled, and people offended by it are invited to leave before the thread begins. You can't just not click on it? And "speak amongst [sic] people who agree with you"? That's a fearful (and boring!) existence. I welcome people who disagree with me, and if they show evidence or their points make sense to me, I'll change my position. You should try it. It's awesome.[/quote] Yes, we know you “welcome” arguments. DP. I can’t get my head around an atheist thread, let alone an atheist forum. After you’ve said, “I don’t believe in a god/gods,” what else is there to say? Which is why you get all the “I’m an atheist, debate me” memes (yes, I know now to post the pic here, but I’m being serious). “Debate” for atheists seems to consist of naively citing passages they don’t understand out of context, making worn-out jokes about the flying spaghetti monster, and repeating endless tropes about sheep and fairy tales. OP/PP is clearly similarly confused. Which is why she can’t make up her mind about whether to ban religious people from her thread, or invite them in with questions and being deliberately obtuse about the response. [/quote] I'm starting to feel bad for you. You sound bitter, threatened, and hurt. I realize it is because a central tenet you have chosen for your life is nearly indefensible and unsupportable in the modern age, and you are watching it rapidly erode in society around you. I'd probably feel just as threatened. But let me be clear about the intention of Atheist posters, authors, blogs, podcasts, and the like: [b]Many people are struggling with these questions and fighting against the ideas that have been ingrained into them (without choice) since birth. If posts can help one of them on their journey, then it is a good thing. All voices should be heard and all evidence should be presented so people can make up their own minds[/b].[/quote] DP here. First of all, true Christians don't use polls or public opinion to guide their faith. The idea of the belief of God is "eroding in society" shows you are in a little bubble with your atheist friends. If you and other atheists are struggling with questions - fine. Christians do too. Atheists are free to post. They are free to question. When I have an issue is when they demean Christians for their beliefs or attempt to "convert" Christians to their way of thinking. Believe what you want. Question what you want. But, understand that those of us who are believers will not be swayed by your attempts. [/quote]
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