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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So, a lot of you want to eliminate quantifiers?

Not sure how mixing a pool of students could work that way.  The top tier would be frustrated and pulled down, the lower tier would be frustrated and not able to keep up.

Students should be measured with what they can do without being overly prepped.

Entrance exams should go back to being one and done. When did all of this change for the worse?

I have friends that tell me that they would not (supposedly, not sure if they are just being humble, could be) be admitted to their top tier university these days, because there are too many applicants.  When there are too many (best of the best) students, and not enough slots, therein lies one of the many problems.  [/quote]

I thought I read that many college's are struggling for students?  I guess those are just the non-top-tier schools?  What I don't understand is all the foreign students we allow in.  For example, why would we ever allow Chinese students to come to America, use our university, then go home?  It makes absolutely no sense unless there are empty slots that don't have domestic applicants.  China has 4 times our population, they need to build 4 times as many colleges instead of depending on America for everything.  Same goes for European students.  Why don't they have a bigger system?[/quote]

I agree. The greatest number of international students in the US come from China. The kind of cheating that is scandalous here is rampant and accepted there. Test scores inflated, made-up activities, consultant-written essays. Many of these kids get to US universities and contribute nothing to the classroom discussions or environment--not to mention that many of them are miserable and depressed because they have not developed the skills necessary to do college-level writing and analysis and because integrating into a culture half a world away from home is hard. Colleges want these students because they are full pay, but they are part of what is driving acceptance rates into the single digits. (I'm sure there are exceptions to this sweeping generalization...but I'm hearing about it a lot from the college students I know.)

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