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1. I am not judging it only based on math counts, but it is an example that can be used for comparison. Other than these competitions, what can one use to compare? I don't have access to MAP or PARCC scores from other children. In addition, when we say a school is good at STEM, we are not talking about the teachers being good. We are talking about the students being stronger, whether that is due to "outside prep" or not. The reality at MCPS is - it is clear that the students define the schools, not the other way around.

2. I am only making the comparison because the PP claimed that Cabin John and Robert Frost were not even close to TPMS in STEM. I think that conclusion is wrong. If you compare those schools, in average,
CJ and RF are stronger. TPMS top students are stronger (there could be exceptions, occasionally), but that is because of the magnet program.

If only considering the STEM part, choosing a home ES which feeds into Cabin John and Frost would be a better choice. That way even if the kids fail to get into the TPMS magnet program , they can still go into strong STEM programs. If you choose a ES that feeds into TP, it does not increase your chance of getting into the magnet program, and if fails, TPMS in general is not as good as CJ or RF.
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If you don't have any relevant data, why assume you can compare?  They all seem like good schools.

Outside prep is important to note if you are trying to compare quality of programs. Sounds like you have confused that with preparedness of students. 2 different things.[/quote]

It is true that it is hard to make an accurate comparison without data. For MS in MoCo, does any one have such data?

[b]As a parent I can only provide my impression based on what I see - in various math activities (in MS, math is the main part for STEM), I've seen many times recently, if TP participates, then normally (there could be a few exceptions) TP kids leading, RF coming after them, sometimes Roberto Clemente before RF. But I've never seen any non-magnet kids from TP showing up in these activities. 
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So my impression is: TP magnet is very strong in STEM, RF (and I know roughly how CJ is doing) would be around 2nd/3rd in the area. There is no evidence showing the strength of the non-magnet kids from TP so that part I can only speculate - maybe average?

As for the "quality of programs" part,  I am comparing the quality of students. I can't judge the quality of teachers or the programs since I don't go to their classes and study with them. I can only look at the outcome - whether it is the result of "programs" at school or "out side prep", that is for people to make their own judgement.

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Duh!!!
Have you seen a school competition where schools don't send their best teams?
Would RF and CJ send their best kids or middle the pack to a math competition?  Then why wouldn't TPMS send their best? Have you seen non-magnet kids from Clemente showing up for these activities?[/quote]

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