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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Above a certain GPA/SAT/ACT Case Western is a safety at the 2 high schools I'm familiar with - you can see it very clearly on the Naviance scattergram. Look at your school's Naviance instagrams and you'll see the same pattern for other schools.[/quote]
In my view, that makes it a match.  What is obvious on the static Naviance scattergram may be creeping to the right and up a bit each year.[/quote]

Well, in that case neither of my kids ever applied to a "safety," because the schools they used as their "safeties" were UVA, W&M, CWU, Wisconsin. Their stats put in them in the part of the Naviance scattergram where everyone had been admitted to those schools. They had no desire to go to a school with a 70% acceptance rate and we weren't going to pay for that, so what's the point of applying to a school like that for a kid who needs more of a challenge?

What schools are good safeties for the 4.0/1560+ kid?[/quote]

When did your kids start college?

My 4.0/1560 DC(graduates HS in 2019) safeties were St Mary's of MD, Wooster and Pitt. Applied EA for each, in w/merit at all.

Also applied RD to Haverford, Kenyon, Middlebury. Assumes all are reaches and college counselor concurred. [b]Perhaps could have increased chances if ED were feasible, but with our financial situation it wasn't.[/b] [/quote]

Haverford and Middlebury do not give merit money - only FA.  Given that, applying ED would have been fine if you are either full-pay or need aid.  I'm guessing it's the latter - in which case, your "out" would have been insufficient FA.[/quote]

What do you mean by, "your 'out' would have been insufficient FA."  Are you saying you can get out of an ED commitment if there is not enough FA?[/quote]

Yes.[/quote]

There have been long threads on this point — it seems that the trick is that your idea of what sufficient financial aid is may not be the same as the school’s, and you may find another school that will give you a better deal with merit aid (if you’re in ED, they have no incentive to lure you in with merit aid, even if they give it.) It basically prevents bargain shopping. If you get in ED and they give you what THEY think you need and then you still can’t afford it, you’re stuck. The recent thread on financial aid shows that there are a lot of “donut hole” families who are struggling to meet their expected contribution. [/quote]

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