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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]It's not "SES peer cohort".. it's "academic peer cohort" which doesn't mean that they are all not low income. Calm down. You're making a big stink out of nothing.[/quote]

Yeah no, it has zero to do with academic cohort. Its about SES, making sure that their kids are around kids with educated parents, not food insecure, no drop out siblings, parents are employed/not in jail etc There was a thread a while back with someone asking about New Hampshire Estates and all the posters nearby made a huge deal that the school is too poor so the OP's kids would have a hard time finding friends. [/quote]

I don't know about that thread, or what a New Hampshire Estate is.  But, there is a tipping point in schools wrt low income kids, and there are empirical studies that show that if the low SES percentage stays below it, the high SES kids will generally perform well, no matter what.  But if a school gets past that tipping point, the performance of *all* students seems to suffer.  For most people, it's about outcomes, not finding rich friends.

And no, I don't have a link to the studies.  Sorry.  [/quote]

Up to 20% doesn't matter 20-40% starts taking a hit over 40% the school has to focus on dealing with kids who need help so much the rest of the school population takes a dramatic hit and it actaully does harm to the kids who don't need extra support due to the lack of attention and focus by the school    [/quote]

WHy can't the county give school vouchers to poor families and let them choose a school to attend as long as the school isn't overcrowded or that it hasn't reached the max limit (whatever that % is, let's say 20%) for FARMS?[/quote]

Think about other parts of our country where the schools are not managed by counties, but as individual school districts. Should a school district just send kids to other districts just because the FARM rate is too high?

If one thinks (or a study shows) high FARM rate for a school is a problem, that is a problem that needs to be dealt with by people managing that school and people living in that community. Shifting the burden to others is not the right way to do it.

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But we're not like other parts of the country. We are one county and we have poor schools, rich schools, and those in between in this one county. We've already established that schools with a high number of poor kids are not good for all students at the school; regardless of what the school does or what programs are established at that school. WHy would school vouchers be a burden to other schools as long as they don't significantly drive up the FARM rates and cause overcrowding?  [/quote]

Put it this way: if you can just "voucher" students to other schools without burdening those schools taking these students, why not just re-zone the clusters to reflect that? Also does county funding go with these students to the schools accepting them? If not, that is unfair.

I would feel even giving more funding to high FARM rate schools (so that they can get more manpower etc.) would be better justified.[/quote]

Title I schools already get additional funds.
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I agree with redefining clusters so you get a better cross section of students at schools.[/b] [/quote]

Well MCPS agrees with you on that one because there's a current study going on about a county-wide boundary reassignment.  I would love to see this come to fruition but I don't see this happening for many many years. [/quote]

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