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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Serious question-- are ya'll's comments on poor math instruction based on this year or based on history?

The reason I ask is that dd's friends have the same teacher dd had last year.  And from what they say, she is taking the instruction much more seriously.  Dd complained that last year, she didn't really teach and spent a lot of her time on her phone.  But this year, the friends say she is actively teaching.

I'm wondering if math teachers are preparing more and trying to be more serious because there is a new sheriff in town, or if this is an isolated anecdote.  [/quote]

My experience is based on several years with kids at the school. With the new principal we were hoping something would change (like ineffective teachers would be gone) but it appears to be the exact same staff. The fact that some teachers knew they could get away with doing the bare minimum and still be secure in their jobs is really sad and pathetic. If you don't want to teach, find something else to do. People change careers all the time. I think a lot of them who are tired of teaching and do as little as possible are sticking around to claim their pensions which are pretty darn good in MCPS.[/quote]

That doesn't mean, though, that there isn't progress being made.  The best a new principal could do is to put them on a performance plan, so having wholesale turnover immediately isn't feasible.  If they indeed improve, then they stay.  If they don't, then the start a path out the door.  From the outside, I haven't a clue what is happening with the poor teachers, but it's too early to blame a principal that there has been no staff turnover yet.[/quote]

This. She has to make certain steps by certain deadlines. And she has to do a certain number of observations (collectively, not just her). If she has the requisite evidence, she can put a teacher on PAR. That effectively means they have one year to get their act together. So it's a two-year process to ditch a teacher. And if the teacher goes on leave or monkeys strategically with stuff, they can make it take three years.[/quote]

Seriously, what other profession can you pull this crap in and still have a job??? Certainly no private employers.[/quote]

This absolutely happens with private employers.  At my private organization it would take at least 9 months to dismiss someone with serious performance issues-- lots of documentation to put them on a performance improvement plan (PIP), six months to improve on the PIP.  And then a cumbersome process to dismiss.  It is very frustrating when you're talking about an employee in an essential role, but it also protects everyone from arbitrary and capricious dismissal.  It may be different at very small organizations, but this is very common with organizations large enough to have an HR department.[/quote]

My brother works with a man who has evaded firing for over three years. Major insurance firm. And, no, the guy isn’t a “protected class”  :roll: He’s just litigious.[/quote]

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