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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard and other top schools have always made it clear that they are looking at much more than just academics. Harvard is about creating leaders, not only academic scholars, so they need to look at far more than just test scores and grades. 
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Excellent job at stating the obvious.  And bonus points for casual racism insinuating that Asians are only excellent at academics.  Utter imbecile.  [/quote]

The car, plane, light bulb, internet, nuclear power all must have been invented by Asians. They are so smart [/quote]

You're embarrassing yourself with your stupidity but you're likely too stupid to realize it.  Oh, and if you have wifi in your trailer you might want to research gunpowder, the compass and printing

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FFS, people getting into a pissing contest about which race is smarter.

In the US, every aspect of society - from politics to mainstream media - has been controlled by white people. So, it's kind of hard for non white people to take on leadership roles historically  Bamboo ceiling is just one example. That is changing, slowly. Look at some of the leaders in high tech; more and more Asian Americans entering politics.  More and more Asians in our media.

Asian American population is small, so it's kind of hard for Asian americans to stand out as leaders.  Maybe Harvard should allow in more Asian Americans so more of them will be trained by Harvard to enter into leadership roles.  Now, there's an equalizer.  We have enough white people in leadership roles, many who are corrupt and inept.[/quote]

there are less jews than asians in the us but there are a shit ton of jews in leadership positions.

how do you explain that?[/quote]

True.

Jews are a tiny minority but exercise disproportionate influence because they work damn hard.

I'd also like to point out that the Asian population was also incredibly small till fairly recently (a generation ago). Complaining that Asians had it hard because whites controlled all the roles overlooks that up through the 1980s the US was 80+ (and even approaching 90% in the 1920s-1960s) white. Well, d'oh.

Anyway, I am not sure if Asians have a problem today. Look at the ranks of leading doctors, lawyers, venture capitalists, business owners, there are now many, many, Asians. It takes a new wave of immigrants time to build their way up to the top. It always has. We forget that the Jews, Italians, Poles, etc, were once derided as non properly "white" ethnic groups and they worked their way to the top.

The African American experience, however, is indisputably different. It's more problematic. It's more complex. I am a bit on the fence on this because there are pros and cons to affirmative actions for African Americans but I've concluded that deeply flawed it is, it's likely better than the alternatives and so be it.

I do fully understand why Asian Americans may feel bitter to being held to the highest standards in the application pools for the top colleges and universities, but on the other hand, perhaps they should be thankful that they don't need affirmative action. [/quote]

Good points.  What drives people crazy is the fact that people that we see as "undeserving" of affirmative action get the benefits.  I'm talking about Nigerian kids, people with spanish ancestry, etc.  Why not limit affirmative action to an income based criteria with a focus on Native americans and African americans who have lived in this country for at least 4 generations and suffered from slavery?

What Harvard and their ilk need to do is provide opportunities for URMs at an early age, identify the deserving and enable them to compete with the Whites and Asians at their level, not water down admission criteria and make the URMs and everyone else feel that they (URMs) are somehow less than the others.  They are not.  [/quote]

Once you start dividing people by race, you start building injustice and resentment.

Better to use an objective standard, same for all races and religions and whatever.

1) Top criteria: first in family to attend college

2) then, family income below X threshold [/quote]

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