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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] AAP is the system that FCPS uses to meet the State of Virginia's mandate for gifted education. If it's serving the overly-enriched, motivated, bright kids at the expense of gifted kids, that's a huge problem. When kids with 130 + IQ as measured by a licensed psychologist (i.e., kids who are gifted) are not being provided gifted education, then FCPS is failing to meet the state mandate for gifted education. I agree with you that underachieving gifted kids need something different from AAP in its current form. FCPS is just required to provide that something, rather than tossing those kids into gen ed. [/quote] Are y'all getting ready to sue FCPS, even though you haven't even received your appeal results yet? [/quote] Quoted PP here: I'm not going to sue FCPS, since both of my kids got into AAP and I have no sour grapes. I just recognize that most kids in AAP aren't really that smart or that special, and there's so much delusion on this board about being "selected first round." My older child is a bright (like 95th percentile intelligence), motivated kid, and she's very middle of the pack in AAP. I have no delusions that she deserves or needs AAP more than a child with a freaking 140 IQ!! It seems like many parents with bright, non-gifted, hardworking, overly enriched children are latching onto that "first round selection" as some sort of proof that their child is more special or gifted than that child actually is. I can't imagine any other reason why anyone would argue that a child with a 140 IQ doesn't belong in AAP. They also seem to latch onto the notion of the infallibility of the committee, as if selection somehow proves that their child is more gifted than the actually gifted children who were rejected. It really is ridiculous. [/quote] There are a lot of really passionate responses on this thread, including your first post. There are posters who are furious with FCPS for not finding their not-in-pool-with-NNAT-or-Cogat-but-now-have-appealed-with-140-WISC kids eligible first round. The anger seems a bit premature to me. [/quote] But I think what they are actually angry about is not that their kid was not selected first round but that they have seen here (albeit, on an anonymous message board where anyone can say anything) that there were kids with 130+ WISC V FSIQ scores denied in the first round despite including the WISC in the original package. As such, they are contemplating what feels like a very real possibility of being denied despite gifted-range IQ. I agree that it is premature to be overly worried about it at this point, but if it is in fact true that FCPS is rejecting kids with gifted level IQs, short of actual evidence that specific psychologists are "selling" high IQ scores for the purposes of AAP selection, this is a big problem. And I say this as someone whose kid got in on the first round. [/quote] THIS! You are describing me. I have not yet posted in this thread but I am reading and it is infuriating. I am angry. I just don't post. I am angry my child was denied first found with a WISC of 132. I am angry I had to spend more money on a SB where my child scored 137 and I can't take any comfort in that because if they can reject her 132, why not her 137? I'm angry that people on here suggest because she was denied first round she doesn't belong in AAP. That makes no sense to tell someone when you have no idea who their child is or what their IQs are. The committee can make errors. To suggest my child doesn't belong simply because they were denied first round but that children who were admitted first round who don't know their IQs (so admittedly it could be high) but who got in with CogATs and NNAT lower than my child's IQ are somehow more deserving is inaccurate and maddening. We won't sue because we can't afford to but I would see nothing wrong with a family suing FCPS for denying their child with 1, but especially 2, IQ score(s) in the 98% who were denied. [/quote] Same here. Denied first round with 134 so appealed with a 144. Seems ridiculous to have to take another (and yes, before anyone asks, different) IQ test when child was already identified as gifted. [/quote]
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