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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Oh well, sounds like you'll live.  At least you weren't shot & killed.  [/quote]

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Not to mention he's right about the spirit of HOV. You ended up with only a warning, his is truly a no harm no foul situation, what outcome are you looking for?[/quote]

There is no "spirit of the HOV." That's just some bullsh#t the officer made up. The law is the law. When did living, breathing babies stop qualifying as "persons"?

The appropriate response from a respectful and socially well-adjusted man is to laugh at the mistake, wave at the babies, and say "Have a good day, ma'am."

Bootlickers like you disgust me. [/quote]

OMG you need to chill out - let me guess you hate traffic enforcement and think it infringes on your civil liberties somehow?

Of course there is a spirit of HOV - it is to move people more efficiently.  The law may allow children to count but I'm not really sure why they should as children don't really need to commute through congested corridors but maybe I'm missing something (and I'm a parent who commutes).

But you can't ticket someone for violating the spirit of HOV and that obviously didn't happen so this entire thread is stupid.

But I'm glad the police are trying to enforce the HOV rules which lots of drivers, including presumably the person I'm responding to, think the rules are optional.[/quote]

I posted earlier but clearly you didn't see it. [b]Moving children around quickly and efficiently IS in the spirit of the HOV. Commuters dealing with children and drop offs take more roads and go more miles than other commuters because they frequently have two commutes, the one to the childcare provider and the one to their job.[/b] Putting them on the HOV DOES help with congestion and moving people around more quickly. They frequently DO have to commute through congested corridors to schools and childcare providers.

Just because you are a parent that doesn't have to move their child through a congested commute that doesn't mean others don't.

I believe police should enforce the law, and I think OP should let it go, but I think the police officer was wrong to give a warning or to act defensive. It is totally reasonable to have not seen the carseats and to have pulled the woman over. Saying, 'oh I didn't see those, have a nice day m'am' would have been appropriate. [/quote]

NP.  This whole idea that the point of HOV is to allow parents to drive their children around quickly and efficiently is ridiculous.  It's meant for commuters going to work.  Sure, parents are included in that, but the point is that it helps clear congestion for commuters to/from work.  The world doesn't revolve around parents shuffling their children around, even though clearly your world does.  [/quote]

I posted earlier exactly how putting parents on HOV lanes helps clear congestion for commuters to/from work.

Non HOV world:

Parent drives kid to daycare: 30 minutes
Parent drives from daycare to work: 30 minutes

HOV world
Parent drives kid to daycare on HOV: 15 minutes
Parent drives without kid from daycare to work: 30 minutes

That car is on the road 15 less minutes. Multiply times the number of parents. Significant reduction in congestion.[/quote]

How about non HOV world parent makes choice to have kids in neighborhood schools that don't involve them spending hours in the car every day?  That would be good for kids and good congestion.

Seriously why do kids need to be commuting on 270?

The point of HOV should be to get more throughput of people who need to get through a congested corridor.  It is hard for me to rationalize why kids need to get through that congested corridor but I live in DC purposefully so my kids are within walking distance of our home.  But in fact it is bad policy to encourage parents to make different choices so I'm really not sure it is in the "spirit" of the law to have parents zipping around in HOV lanes with kids who really don't need to be going to school downtown - most jobs are downtown and most daycares and schools are not.[/quote]

I said daycare not school. And a lot of time what daycare you go to isn't a choice.

But since you live in dc why do you care?[/quote]

If DCUM and my own personal experience is any guide there is a lot of choice about daycare.

And I care as a DC resident because I want fewer cars on my roads and HOV is a way to filter out single occupancy cars in the burbs - some of that 270 traffic ends up on my street and I really don't think it makes sense to encourage folks to drive through my neighborhood by allowing them to take advantage of HOV by putting kids in the back when those kids should go to preschool/daycare/whatever where they live not where I live.[/quote]

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