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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My pastor calls things like OP’s post “Christianese,” or stuff Christians say to other Christians to make themselves feel good.  No one who isn’t Christian is going to find the idea of Jesus paying your “sin-debt” compelling.  People feel like they have more pressing issues, like how to feel peace, be a good person, etc.  And sadly, they are so turned off by people like OP that they never see that the love of Jesus can do amazing things in your life, the one you are living right now.[/quote]

NP. And I call people like your pastor "lukewarm" and not followers of Christ at all. Christianity is not about marketing itself based on popular polling.[/quote]

Ok, cool.  I’ll make sure to let him know.

My pastor has actually baptized hundreds of people, but maybe you’re right.  I can’t say that I understand what you’re trying to accomplish.[/quote]

Baptized hundreds of people? So have a lot of other so-called pastors who have perverted God's word to their own personal gain and liking.[/quote]

Ok, and?  You’re insulting a person you don’t know.  I know my pastor, I know he’s actually awesome, so I don’t really know what else to say.  I mean should I go into a lengthy defense of my unnamed pastor because you don’t like something he said that is actually great common sense?  A lot of the posters on this thread are getting really testy and insulting and I think that reveals their depth more than anything I have to say.[/quote]

I'm saying that I think people - particularly pastors - who preach a message that Christianity is about "feeling peace" and "being a good person" have totally and completely perverted God's word, as revealed in the scriptures. You said that about your pastor, not me. Christ said that following Him is anything but a feel-good session. But people like you, and I assume, your pastor, are more concerned about "turning off" other people by telling them the truth - which is that they are sinners and in need of a savior - because they want to "feel good" about themselves and grow big churche$$, I assume. Based on Biblical teachings, God will deal with those people in His own way. And I'd hate to be there to see it.  Your pastor is creating a false god and a false idol - himself.[/quote]

AGREED! Amen![/quote]

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