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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Agree with the AA parents posting here, based on what I've seen and heard through the grapevine. I also think this is true for Latino kids (FWIW, my kids are half-Latino; it's too soon to know with our younger kids, but the oldest did get into the program on appeal last year), especially Latino kids whose parents don't speak English very well. It's messed up, because if a kid comes from a home where English isn't the first language and the parents don't have a lot of formal education and they STILL manage to come within a few points of the cutoff, you'd think there would be an aggressive move to get those kids into the program, if for no other reason than to make the numbers for URM students look a lot better than they do. I do think some schools work really hard to help kids like these, but schools with great AARTs can only do so much if the AART and parent liaisons are on part-time contracts. [/quote]

I'm not saying they can't do more, I'm just pointing out that they do indicate in the AAP packets whether kids are ESOL, and I understood that was so the committee would pay special attention to those.[/quote]

I know, but a lot of the kids aren't in ESOL, or at least they're not by the time they're in second grade. Their parents may not speak English well, but the kids are proficient. There's a space to indicate which languages are spoken in the home, and that's definitely useful information to have, but I don't know if it's weighted the same as being in ESOL. [/quote]

I've seen this myself as a former 4th grade teacher. I had a student who came to the country from central America with zero English in K and was doing amazingly in my GE class. She was exactly the type of thinker AAP was made for. Incredibly creative, strong analytical skills and an amazing memory. Like one of the best I've ever seen. I actually referred her for level III services and eventually encouraged the parents (who spoke no English) to refer her to be screened again.

I read her second grade file. She exited services (IN TWO YEARS PEOPLE THAT'S INSANE). That should have been a huge red flag for the AART. It wasn't. Her package was weak. I put together a much stronger package and with her parents support she got a second COGAT and is currently in AAP in middle school now, thriving apparently.

So, I would say the AARTs aren't exactly taking a close look at ESOL students necessarily.[/quote]

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