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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Men really need to understand that women feel so much pressure to have babies when they're at the fertile best. Women sometimes[b] will "settle"[/b] on a marriage, to have the babies. I'm sorry you're experiencing this, OP. [b]Men are just clueless when it comes to women.[/b] Some women enjoy sex. Some women enjoy sex only with men they're very attracted to (and no, the [b]MGTOW morons are wrong that abusers and bullies and jerks are attractive to women)[/b].

I've been told by women that they "settled" when they married their husbands, because the clock was ticking and they wanted to have kids. Or their finances weren't in order. Or they were going back to school.

You're not getting it. If it wasn't there before, what makes you think it's going to be there now?

Couples need those hot sexy can't keep our hands off of each other memories from when they first started dating to get through the drudgery of married life over the long haul. And things will improve.

However, if you never had that hot sexy can't keep our hands off of each other time in your relationship, what makes you think after 14 years it's her hormones or stress from having kids? [/quote]

You first paragraph seems a bit contradictory. Seems the mgtow people may understand women very  well given your assessment that women are users and men are clueless. I somewhat agree, putting a woman on a pedestal in your mind is a huge mistake.

Women making the claim they "settled" are pitiful humans honestly. Too weak to go it alone so they lie to some poor sap that thinks they are wonderful. In reality they are pathetic losers that use someone and waste years of that persons life. Basically they are parasites. 
Perhaps they arent aware it is not settling when its the best you can do. If they could have done better they would have. Narcissism among the American female is unbelievably high. [/quote]

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